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Old 07-24-2019, 06:40 PM
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Default Pay raises... not such a good deal.

Seems like we got hosed. Our fo pay is... fine now. But 15% on $66 an hour still isn't exactly industry leading. We didn't get back pay through may 15th or many of the other improvements in the AIP. Kind of seems like a raw deal, no?
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by slantgolf
Seems like we got hosed. Our fo pay is... fine now. But 15% on $66 an hour still isn't exactly industry leading. We didn't get back pay through may 15th or many of the other improvements in the AIP. Kind of seems like a raw deal, no?
So you know what the deal is?

Let's wait for the facts, then we can assess if it was a win/lose for the pilot group.
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:52 PM
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I wouldn’t say we got screwed, but I feel like we could’ve got a better deal. Let’s wait and see the details.
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The initial signs are very bad. Extremely disappointed to have conceded on retro pay. Guess we’ll see what else is in there.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tellheritwasntu
I wouldn’t say we got screwed, but I feel like we could’ve got a better deal. Let’s wait and see the details.
I would say with almost certainty Captains got screwed.

We got Piedmont pay rates. Fly a 175, the largest and heaviest RJ out there, for ERJ140 rates.

This is so far from the AIP, I almost don't believe it.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:12 PM
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The math doesn’t work for CAs, I agree. We’re gonna be $5+/hr short of PSA if the 15% figure is reliable.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
I would say with almost certainty Captains got screwed.

We got Piedmont pay rates. Fly a 175, the largest and heaviest RJ out there, for ERJ140 rates.

This is so far from the AIP, I almost don't believe it.
You haven't seen the AIP. Nor have you seen the new deal.
Let's see the deal, and judge it then.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:15 PM
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The math doesn’t work for CAs, I agree. We’re gonna be $5+/hr short of PSA if the 15% figure is reliable.
And the 500 senior guys will be over PSA, if the blended vs. pay band rate rumors are true.
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Originally Posted by dera
And the 500 senior guys will be over PSA, if the blended vs. pay band rate rumors are true.
It's not a rumor. Read the contract.
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The math doesn’t work for CAs, I agree. We’re gonna be $5+/hr short of PSA if the 15% figure is reliable.
More like $8-$10 short.
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