Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional > Envoy Airlines
Company reneged on pay package >

Company reneged on pay package

Search

Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

Company reneged on pay package

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-03-2019, 09:45 AM
  #221  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 339
Default

“Envoy management has recently expressed a desire to re-engage the Association in talks pertinent to the AIP and management's repudiation of that agreement. We have conveyed to Envoy management that we remain ready to implement the terms of the agreement.”

Latest union email, any interpretations?
blackbox348 is offline  
Old 07-03-2019, 09:53 AM
  #222  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
Default

Sounds like these people move like molasses in an igloo but things are less settled than many thought.
NoValueAviator is offline  
Old 07-03-2019, 09:54 AM
  #223  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,495
Default

Originally Posted by blackbox348
“Envoy management has recently expressed a desire to re-engage the Association in talks pertinent to the AIP and management's repudiation of that agreement. We have conveyed to Envoy management that we remain ready to implement the terms of the agreement.”

Latest union email, any interpretations?
I interpret that as this:

Management: "Hey, union, about that AIP... we're ready to continue negotiations."

Union: "What's there to negotiate? We already have an AIP. Let us know when you're ready to make it happen."
highfarfast is offline  
Old 07-03-2019, 10:01 AM
  #224  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,279
Default

Originally Posted by highfarfast
I interpret that as this:

Management: "Hey, union, about that AIP... we're ready to continue negotiations."

Union: "What's there to negotiate? We already have an AIP. Let us know when you're ready to make it happen."
outsider looking in, thats the way it reads to me as well.
CLE to IAH is offline  
Old 07-03-2019, 10:33 AM
  #225  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: May 2019
Position: CA
Posts: 191
Default

Originally Posted by blackbox348
“Envoy management has recently expressed a desire to re-engage the Association in talks pertinent to the AIP and management's repudiation of that agreement. We have conveyed to Envoy management that we remain ready to implement the terms of the agreement.”

Latest union email, any interpretations?
Interpretation:

“Envoy management [VP of Ops] has recently expressed [put out propaganda in the form of a nothingburger letter] a desire [willingness to play union busting games] to re-engage [offer compensation inferior to the original AIP] the Association in talks pertinent to the AIP and management's repudiation [dAAd allegedly saying MQ management exceeded their authority] of that agreement. We have conveyed to Envoy management that we remain ready to implement the terms of the agreement [nothing is actually happening].”
UnprotectdPilot is offline  
Old 07-03-2019, 10:44 AM
  #226  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
Default

Hold the Line!!!
moon is offline  
Old 07-03-2019, 11:10 AM
  #227  
In a land of unicorns
 
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,633
Default

Originally Posted by highfarfast
I interpret that as this:

Management: "Hey, union, about that AIP... we're ready to continue negotiations."

Union: "What's there to negotiate? We already have an AIP. Let us know when you're ready to make it happen."
Latest was that ALPA National says AIP is an enforceable contract, so it might be going to arbitration.
dera is offline  
Old 07-03-2019, 11:15 AM
  #228  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 608
Default

Originally Posted by dera
Latest was that ALPA National says AIP is an enforceable contract, so it might be going to arbitration.
That would be amazing.
Voski is offline  
Old 07-03-2019, 11:18 AM
  #229  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 339
Default

Originally Posted by Voski
That would be amazing.
Would take months to actually get a ruling...
blackbox348 is offline  
Old 07-03-2019, 11:23 AM
  #230  
In a land of unicorns
 
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,633
Default

Originally Posted by blackbox348
Would take months to actually get a ruling...
Very likely with back pay.
dera is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FormerKalitta
Kalitta Companies
132
01-23-2017 03:01 AM
Schwanker
Delta
306
01-14-2016 11:09 AM
gzsg
Delta
10296
07-10-2015 01:42 PM
3662forlife
Regional
79
06-03-2012 07:48 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices