Company reneged on pay package
06-21-2019, 10:30 AM
#161
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
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I’m so tempted to pull out their emails and letters demanding pay and work rule concessions 5 years ago an the onset of a pilot shortage. Instead they drove Eagle from 3200 pilots with 7 bases spanning the Western Hemisphere down to two bases with 1500 pilots.
Simply brilliant management going on there....
Instead they got what they wanted and within two months were back starting with improvements because recruiting was falling off. It’s been 4 years of piecemeal improvements. Mostly bandaids to keep enough meat in the seats.
Now they’re screwed, and it’s entirely from their own doing and making. They were told. Instead they killed the messengers.
I’d encourage everybody to not respond to their email attempt at negotiating in public. Send your ideas comments and questions to your union reps.
You are not dealing with ethical, honest or honorable managers.
Simply brilliant management going on there....
Instead they got what they wanted and within two months were back starting with improvements because recruiting was falling off. It’s been 4 years of piecemeal improvements. Mostly bandaids to keep enough meat in the seats.
Now they’re screwed, and it’s entirely from their own doing and making. They were told. Instead they killed the messengers.
I’d encourage everybody to not respond to their email attempt at negotiating in public. Send your ideas comments and questions to your union reps.
You are not dealing with ethical, honest or honorable managers.
06-21-2019, 11:01 AM
#162
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(RW, PF, etc.) Sits at desk, opens form email, changes dates and subjects, uses mediocre vague verbiage, blah blah blah, keep up the good work.
Signed, disingenuous.
FUPM.
06-21-2019, 12:11 PM
#163
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1. Dont negotiate in public.
2. The news is that there is no news.
3. Your MEC is working on it
etc. At the end it will be a big nothing show most likely. Managment and our union both need to be more transparent through these processes.
06-21-2019, 08:31 PM
#164
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There are clues in that email. Why is he talking about bonuses? We’ve seen what happens to bonuses around here with the implementation of the retention bonus where most of it is never paid, and with the performance bonus, where if we earn it the criteria changes and the prize shrinks.
06-21-2019, 10:11 PM
#165
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There are clues in that email. Why is he talking about bonuses? We’ve seen what happens to bonuses around here with the implementation of the retention bonus where most of it is never paid, and with the performance bonus, where if we earn it the criteria changes and the prize shrinks.
06-22-2019, 03:42 AM
#166
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There are clues in that email. Why is he talking about bonuses? We’ve seen what happens to bonuses around here with the implementation of the retention bonus where most of it is never paid, and with the performance bonus, where if we earn it the criteria changes and the prize shrinks.
06-22-2019, 04:05 AM
#167
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Thats how I read it as well. Essentially rolling new hire and fo retention bonuses into their hard pay. Great, that is much better. However that leaves the captain pay scales to contend with.
06-22-2019, 04:07 AM
#168
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Fair enough, I’m at a point with these evil people where all I have to hear is certain trigger words (such as “bonus”) and I’m at DEFCON 1.
06-22-2019, 04:08 AM
#169
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You are completely in the right. I think we are all at that point, I came to my conclusion after reading what you said and then going back to the email to re-read it.
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