Would you recommend flying for Envoy?
04-03-2019, 06:30 AM
#12
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: EMB-145
Posts: 196
So he make an uneducated statement about pay rules and I pointed out the facts and that makes me a “koolade drinker” lol whatever makes you feel better about your crap pay bud. Envoy has way worse pay rules than Skywest. Just keep gulping down that good ole flow koolade. How did those reserve negotiations end up? How are the contract negotiations going at Envoy? You guys just keep taking it and beg for more just to keep the flow train rolling.
04-03-2019, 06:36 AM
#13
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 93
And these scare tactics right here are why Envoy can get away with not rasing pay or improving QOL. Latching yourself on to flow is like being an AA indentured servant...
04-03-2019, 06:43 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 93
We have a spot here at Envoy if you ever want to make it to a mainline legacy carrier. It may take 9 years to get there but that’s better than 30 years at skypest. Not saying Envoys great, it sucks, but at the end of the day it’s a means to an end. Enjoy your pay. Congrats on living the regional lifer dream.
04-03-2019, 07:01 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
Tell that to the Chicago crew that was fired recently for a very simple error that anyone could have made.
04-03-2019, 07:04 AM
#16
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
If I could do it again, I would not come to Envoy. If you have your degree, and a clean training record, there is no reason to come here. You will be entering a pilot group that is loathed by its management, earning significantly less than your industry peers, and have contract which has many parts from an era where cell phones didn’t exist. Sure we have lots of 175’s coming, but you still have the chance of the 145. I will say what others will say, go to a company where you can live in base. The flow is a nice back pocket item, but it is not worth putting up with this place for 8 years.
04-03-2019, 08:38 AM
#19
Fly or Die
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 491
If I could do it again, I would not come to Envoy. If you have your degree, and a clean training record, there is no reason to come here. You will be entering a pilot group that is loathed by its management, earning significantly less than your industry peers, and have contract which has many parts from an era where cell phones didn’t exist. Sure we have lots of 175’s coming, but you still have the chance of the 145. I will say what others will say, go to a company where you can live in base. The flow is a nice back pocket item, but it is not worth putting up with this place for 8 years.
04-03-2019, 08:58 AM
#20
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
I’d go to Republic or Endeavor. Upgrade in relatively the same time and have a much better contract. The Envoy contract is severely lacking and everyone knows it, but there is zero incentive for the company to fix it because we keep the classes coming. ALPA has zero leverage and the company doesn’t even want to work with us on reserve improvements without us giving concessions to even talk to them.
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