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#901
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
Why don't you contact the FAA to get their official stance on this scenario instead of asking on a forum for guys to chime in. For the most part, asking guys that have no idea, myself included, on how the intricacies on this play out. Admittedly, I don't know how all of this part 61 nonsense applies, I'd find it hard to believe that you can anyway claim to pull any type of PIC time while acting as an SIC. But ask an FAA guy with some authority on this if you want an official answer.
#902
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 92
That's what I thought as far as logging the time, but if I'm remembering my upgrade IOE correctly my LCA had me sign my name in the AML and on the release which I thought was supposed to be done by the PIC. I could be mis-remembering though, pretty much all I remember from CA IOE was frantically trying to understand what the hell the VNAV and auto throttles in the 175 were doing and asking myself why I didn't just wait for a vacancy on an airplane I already knew
#903
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,633
Why don't you contact the FAA to get their official stance on this scenario instead of asking on a forum for guys to chime in. For the most part, asking guys that have no idea, myself included, on how the intricacies on this play out. Admittedly, I don't know how all of this part 61 nonsense applies, I'd find it hard to believe that you can anyway claim to pull any type of PIC time while acting as an SIC. But ask an FAA guy with some authority on this if you want an official answer.
The thing is - all of that is only relevant for single pilot airplanes, you cannot be a sole manipulator of controls in a plane requiring two pilots.
#904
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
That's what I thought as far as logging the time, but if I'm remembering my upgrade IOE correctly my LCA had me sign my name in the AML and on the release which I thought was supposed to be done by the PIC. I could be mis-remembering though, pretty much all I remember from CA IOE was frantically trying to understand what the hell the VNAV and auto throttles in the 175 were doing and asking myself why I didn't just wait for a vacancy on an airplane I already knew
#910
On Reserve
Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 24
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