Envoy 2019
11-28-2019, 08:16 AM
#2112
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Seriously doubt if you could get anything close to that at Envoy. Doesn’t matter what the base or aircraft. Schedules are just not efficient enough and picking up OT is so hit and miss. Too many deadheads, lost days, misconnects, etc.
11-28-2019, 08:36 AM
#2113
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 78
The WOs have had a handful hired at AA outside of the flow this year, so that is not true.
As a non-military pilot, you have a far better chance of getting to AA from a WO than you do from SkyWest, as only 42 pilots hired OTS at AA this year (end of October stats) were civilian-trained. I’m not sure of the WO street hires’ backgrounds, so there may be some overlap between the WO street hires and those 42.
Even if flowing isn’t your plan, it’s not a bad back up plan.
As a non-military pilot, you have a far better chance of getting to AA from a WO than you do from SkyWest, as only 42 pilots hired OTS at AA this year (end of October stats) were civilian-trained. I’m not sure of the WO street hires’ backgrounds, so there may be some overlap between the WO street hires and those 42.
Even if flowing isn’t your plan, it’s not a bad back up plan.
11-28-2019, 10:18 AM
#2114
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 31
I’ve never heard of this. Could someone shed some light?
11-28-2019, 10:57 AM
#2116
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Position: FO
Posts: 18
Thanks for the replies on the potential annual flight hours. I am military FW and looking get to majors with maybe a short stint in the regionals. At sky ball AA chief pilot strongly mentioned several times, if you want to get to AA, work for a WO. Either for the full flow or out of flow. Thanks for the input. Surprised to hear so much negatively written about Envoy.
11-28-2019, 12:06 PM
#2117
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
I’ll add displaced for ioe.....
11-28-2019, 12:21 PM
#2118
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,633
We are so overstaffed right now with 175 FOs that a new hire probably wont be able to do that. Reserve times are much longer now than a year ago.
11-28-2019, 03:25 PM
#2119
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 262
On the 175 you can if you get lucky with your timing and spend minimal time on reserve. It's only 83 hours a month block. It's not hard to average that as a lineholder if you want.
We are so overstaffed right now with 175 FOs that a new hire probably wont be able to do that. Reserve times are much longer now than a year ago.
We are so overstaffed right now with 175 FOs that a new hire probably wont be able to do that. Reserve times are much longer now than a year ago.
And 3 more aircraft a month next year, and 20 more aircraft coming from Compass.
Today’s staffing levels cannot be used to predict tomorrow’s flight time.
11-28-2019, 03:28 PM
#2120
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 262
Thanks for the replies on the potential annual flight hours. I am military FW and looking get to majors with maybe a short stint in the regionals. At sky ball AA chief pilot strongly mentioned several times, if you want to get to AA, work for a WO. Either for the full flow or out of flow. Thanks for the input. Surprised to hear so much negatively written about Envoy.
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