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11-26-2019, 08:04 AM

#2101

ninerdriver

Porco Rosso

Joined APC: Apr 2018

Posts: 2,522

Quote:

Originally Posted by rld1k

So there's an option to select transition and they will pay you for time lost due to legalities. If you don't select it you will still be removed due to legalities. Why is there an option to basically "pay me less if I don't select this"?

Because, hopefully, you won't select this.

We have the same thing on our max line range option. There's an option to request 85+ hours, and there's a separate option to get paid the 150% for everything over 85 hours.

11-26-2019, 11:31 AM

#2102

Chato

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Sep 2019

Posts: 413

Use your D1’s they said. They’re vacation passes they said

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/airlines/report-american-airlines-is-second-to-none-at-bumping-passengers.html

11-27-2019, 05:02 AM

#2103

Cyio

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Joined APC: Mar 2017

Posts: 3,789

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chato

Use your D1’s they said. They’re vacation passes they said

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/airlines/report-american-airlines-is-second-to-none-at-bumping-passengers.html

I mean I hate AA overbooking policies but “some” of the blame does fall into they 737 max bucket. That said, AA almost enjoys overbooking their flights.

11-27-2019, 07:45 AM

#2104

Cyio

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Travel Planner down for anyone else when you try and do a search?

11-27-2019, 08:30 AM

#2105

Propeller

Crewroom Couch Warmer

Joined APC: Aug 2019

Position: 145 FO

Posts: 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyio

Travel Planner down for anyone else when you try and do a search?

It works fine for me

11-28-2019, 03:35 AM

#2106

stringfellow

On Reserve

Joined APC: Oct 2019

Position: FO

Posts: 18

Ive seen a few post about flight time at Envoy, I was shocked it to be so low. A few posts saying 200 a year, is that still the average for a new FO? That seems extremely low to me. I have an over for Skywest and Envoy. That could be a large deciding factor. I am leading to Envoy not necessarily for the flow, but for the perceived commitment to AA for get hired up early.

11-28-2019, 03:39 AM

#2107

rld1k

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Posts: 537

300-600 first year is probably more accurate in my experience

11-28-2019, 04:54 AM

#2108

Toolbox9909

Line Holder

Joined APC: Oct 2018

Posts: 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by stringfellow

If you don't care about the flow, then everything else is better at Skywest: work rules, pay credit, bases, trips, overnights.

And the provision allowing the company to withhold you kicks in after the 2014 hires leave. Not a guaranteed flow.

AA will not hire you OTS, if you are working at envoy. Why pay you more, if they can pay you less.

11-28-2019, 07:21 AM

#2109

skyemiles2

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Posts: 133

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toolbox9909

AA will not hire you OTS, if you are working at envoy. Why pay you more, if they can pay you less.

The WOs have had a handful hired at AA outside of the flow this year, so that is not true.

As a non-military pilot, you have a far better chance of getting to AA from a WO than you do from SkyWest, as only 42 pilots hired OTS at AA this year (end of October stats) were civilian-trained. I’m not sure of the WO street hires’ backgrounds, so there may be some overlap between the WO street hires and those 42.

Even if flowing isn’t your plan, it’s not a bad back up plan.