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Quote: So you are saying their roll rate and bank angle weren’t an issue?
Dude seriously why are you always so anti pilot and pro management on here? You tout yourself as knowing the situation of every nuance that has happened to every single pilot at envoy in the last 10 years and have been here for 10 months. The only reason they got fired is because of the publicity with someone filming. There's been people who have broken airplanes, gone off taxiways/runways and who still work here/flowed to American.

Like someone else said you didn't even notice the company not paying out over a month of retro pay, so maybe shouldn't be so quick to judge everyone else.
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Quote: It’s factually incorrect to state that was the reason given for them being fired, when another specific reason was given by the company on the record.

But you knew that already.
So you knew too that it wasn't the wrong turn that got them into trouble. Are you seriously saying they were doing the right thing?
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Quote: Dude seriously why are you always so anti pilot and pro management on here? You tout yourself as knowing the situation of every nuance that has happened to every single pilot at envoy in the last 10 years and have been here for 10 months. The only reason they got fired is because of the publicity with someone filming. There's been people who have broken airplanes, gone off taxiways/runways and who still work here/flowed to American.

Like someone else said you didn't even notice the company not paying out over a month of retro pay, so maybe shouldn't be so quick to judge everyone else.
I don't tout anything. But clearly you don't know what happened, and why they got fired. Pro tip 1: Nothing to do with LiveATC.
I don't agree with the way it was handled, but it wasn't the wrong turn that got them in trouble. Talk to your union reps.
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Quote: I don't tout anything. But clearly you don't know what happened, and why they got fired. Pro tip 1: Nothing to do with LiveATC.
I don't agree with the way it was handled, but it wasn't the wrong turn that got them in trouble. Talk to your union reps.
I'm sure you've never made a single mistake in the airplane. And yes, in fact it was because liveatc and the news that so much attention was brought on them. People have done much worse and fireable offenses that still work here/American. Again, what do you have to gain from putting down pilots at every chance you get?
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Quote: I'm sure you've never made a single mistake in the airplane. And yes, in fact it was because liveatc and the news that so much attention was brought on them. People have done much worse and fireable offenses that still work here/American. Again, what do you have to gain from putting down pilots at every chance you get?
Talk to your reps. Nothing to do with liveatc.
Don't say "in fact" when you clearly have no facts.
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Quote: Talk to your reps. Nothing to do with liveatc.
Don't say "in fact" when you clearly have no facts.
Lol okay. Also the guy got his job back so what does that say to you about the offense being fireable or not?
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Quote: Lol okay. Also the guy got his job back so what does that say to you about the offense being fireable or not?
Talk to your reps. Seriously.
Do you see him on the captain list?

It says our union is pretty damn good, every now and then.
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Quote: Talk to your reps. Seriously.
Do you see him on the captain list?

It says our union is pretty damn good, every now and then.
I've talked to multiple reps about it already, but thanks. Go back to troll the republic pages or something with your anti pilot bs.
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Quote: I've talked to multiple reps about it already, but thanks. Go back to troll the republic pages or something with your anti pilot bs.
Clearly you haven't. Whatever.
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Quote: Clearly you haven't. Whatever.
Also FOQA and CVR data can't be used as a punitive measure. Also, we have a video out that says if you file an ASAP for doing something wrong that wasn't intentional it will also be non punitive.
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