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06-05-2019, 04:59 PM

#1281

ERAUAV8TR

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Originally Posted by dera

Thank you for this valuable contribution. The amount of information in your post is overwhelming.
(Yeah, the seat count was wrong, but the point still stands)

Dera,

Homework assignment for ya: read designing and executing strategy in aviation...otherwise I have no baseline to work with to understanding the airline operations except ur pilot point of view

06-05-2019, 05:00 PM

#1282

dera

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Originally Posted by highfarfast

Envoy does pick last from the flight file. I don’t know how else you can explain why we have such lower average credit per day for a trip that most regionals have.

As to the rest, sounds like a lot of 175 bs to me. But that’s alright. EVERYONE gets 175 nowadays.

Perhaps, just perhaps, it's because we do line bidding instead of PBS? Sometimes Occam's Razor works.

So when AA releases a new route from DFW saying they will start in December, and it's operated by a 175, it's because Mesa or Skywest decided they don't want it? Get real.

06-05-2019, 05:02 PM

#1283

dera

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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR

Dera,

Homework assignment for ya: read designing and executing strategy in aviation...otherwise I have no baseline to work with to understanding the airline operations except ur pilot point of view

Your baseline is missing the fact, that you have no facts about what AAG is doing. Your ERAU theories don't apply if you don't have the facts.

06-05-2019, 05:04 PM

#1284

highfarfast

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Originally Posted by dera

Perhaps, just perhaps, it's because we do line bidding instead of PBS? Sometime's Occam's Razor applies here.

So when AA releases a new route from DFW saying they will start in December, and it's operated by a 175, it's because Mesa or Skywest decided they don't want it? Get real.

More 175 stories. Don’t care.

Only a select few get to know the 175 side as new hires.

Edit: Are you really trying to bring PBS into this? REALLY??

06-05-2019, 05:10 PM

#1285

FlyPurdue

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AA does all of the regionals network planning. The planning team that manages a certain hub, selects the gauge, E140 to 77W, that is best suited for a market and then if multiple airlines operate the same gauge - they float various solutions to see what is most optimal from a maintenance and crew base standpoint. Then that file is sent to the various airlines. There is no bidding or giving any airline the pick vs the scraps. It all has to do with gauge and geography.

I spent 5 years over there, and that’s just a very simplistic view of the process.

06-05-2019, 05:13 PM

#1286

highfarfast

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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue

Some of what you say there makes a lot of sense, and is what I supposed was true. Some of what you say flies in the face of what the union has been telling us.

Union lies?

06-05-2019, 05:13 PM

#1287

dera

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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue

Thank you.

People saying they have a list of flights to bid for and regionals go through them in some order are, well, wrong.

06-05-2019, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue

Any idea on the difference between ENY 175's and Mesa CRJ900? I notice we trade routes back and forth and have always wondered.

-Keep the dirty side down

06-05-2019, 05:38 PM

#1289

FlyPurdue

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Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA

Any idea on the difference between ENY 175's and Mesa CRJ900? I notice we trade routes back and forth and have always wondered.

-Keep the dirty side down

Unfortunately, specifics are proprietary and probably have changed since I left - but the fact that they swap so frequently means we could infer they are pretty comparable; and rather the swaps are a result of other factors in play (assuming comparable bases and touch points).

When I left AA, part of my motivation in returning to the flight deck was I wanted to help bring transparency to the pilot group, and help pilots (and management) see eye to eye better on issues that face both of us. Unfortunately, I have not been successful in that from a formal standpoint - but have tried using this platform informally.

06-05-2019, 05:45 PM

#1290

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Quote:

Originally Posted by highfarfast

Some of what you say there makes a lot of sense, and is what I supposed was true. Some of what you say flies in the face of what the union has been telling us.

Union lies?

I don't think the union lies honestly - I think that they have misinformation, and management has simply chosen not to correct them on.