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Old 05-20-2019, 12:09 PM
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The people who wrote the last 2 seasons.
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:00 AM
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It's been 2 weeks, another class today?

Any guesses how many people will torpedo the negotiating efforts by showing?
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:07 AM
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It's been 2 weeks, another class today?

Any guesses how many people will torpedo the negotiating efforts by showing?
I'll throw in my lot. My guess is that 20+ people showed today.

(I hope I'm wrong)
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:17 AM
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I really don’t wanna turn into that guy who is mean to new hires but it’s getting harder and harder. You guys are taking food off the tables of 2000+ other pilots when you come here now, and even if you’re a cowboy-boots wearing Dallas slacker who wears his FFDO holster in the terminal I urge you to consider the other options.
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:24 AM
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I really don’t wanna turn into that guy who is mean to new hires but it’s getting harder and harder. You guys are taking food off the tables of 2000+ other pilots when you come here now, and even if you’re a cowboy-boots wearing Dallas slacker who wears his FFDO holster in the terminal I urge you to consider the other options.


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Old 06-03-2019, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
I really don’t wanna turn into that guy who is mean to new hires but it’s getting harder and harder. You guys are taking food off the tables of 2000+ other pilots when you come here now, and even if you’re a cowboy-boots wearing Dallas slacker who wears his FFDO holster in the terminal I urge you to consider the other options.
Exactly, there are other decent options in DFW/ORD. SkyWest to name one. And I can't believe I am saying this, MESA is not any worse than us now. Those guys catch a lot of flak, but at end of day still bringing home more. Good guys there too. Everyone is needed to get the job done, but try to see the struggle and help the collective all by staying away a while longer or going elsewhere. Prior Cadets, I got it, gotta play the hand dealt, but off the street has a choice.
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:42 AM
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6/3 Class Drop

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Old 06-03-2019, 11:17 AM
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Any guesses how many people will torpedo the negotiating efforts by showing?
I've been reading this forum for several months, and other than the few who actually help new people by answering questions, it is mostly whining by "older" pilots who complain about everything and blame new pilots and young people. Not too many people read these forums so posting about how much you wish people would not come to envoy on here is pretty much a waste of time. If you want to send a message to the company, why don't you all just quit and go someplace else?


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
I really don’t wanna turn into that guy who is mean to new hires but it’s getting harder and harder. You guys are taking food off the tables of 2000+ other pilots when you come here now, and even if you’re a cowboy-boots wearing Dallas slacker who wears his FFDO holster in the terminal I urge you to consider the other options.
Again, nobody is hearing you... but you do have options for yourself. Like you all keep saying, other regionals are hiring....
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I've been reading this forum for several months, and other than the few who actually help new people by answering questions, it is mostly whining by "older" pilots who complain about everything and blame new pilots and young people. Not too many people read these forums so posting about how much you wish people would not come to envoy on here is pretty much a waste of time. If you want to send a message to the company, why don't you all just quit and go someplace else?


Again, nobody is hearing you... but you do have options for yourself. Like you all keep saying, other regionals are hiring....
Because a lateral move, to another regional, is not really a lateral move. As bad as conditions and pay are at Envoy, if someone went to another regional, they lose “relative seniority”, meaning you are starting out at a lower pay level, you have to do training all over again and begin again at the bottom. Someone completely new to regionals is not losing any relative seniority, so why choose Envoy??? Much better options, even if you want DFW or ORD. Actually, especially if you want DFW.
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6/3 Class Drop

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All OFL? Was there no choice or did everyone choose ORD?
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