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04-08-2019, 05:19 AM
#713
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
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How many non cadet, non RTP guys have they been hiring? Those are the ones that can change their mind with no consequences. Cadets and RTPs are close to a year pipeline. Once they take a drink of the Envoy Kool-Aid, it is very unlikely they can spit it out for a serving from PSA. Even then, not sure if a street hire who already had an Envoy class date would get hired by PSA.
04-08-2019, 05:49 AM
#714
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,771
How many non cadet, non RTP guys have they been hiring? Those are the ones that can change their mind with no consequences. Cadets and RTPs are close to a year pipeline. Once they take a drink of the Envoy Kool-Aid, it is very unlikely they can spit it out for a serving from PSA. Even then, not sure if a street hire who already had an Envoy class date would get hired by PSA.
Who knows really, that's why I said if we see anything, it probably wouldn't be until next month. I will say though, that changes like the PSA raises has a huge and immediate impact on recruiting. I remember when Envoy raised the pay for FO's, it was nearly instant in terms of upping recruiting. I would assume the inverse is true. Should be interesting to see what comes of all of this, if anything.
04-08-2019, 06:03 AM
#715
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Yeah you could totally be correct, it would be hard for any of us to guess. I am not sure of the cadet/rtp breakdown in the past classes, but I think there are still some people that are off the street. Those are the factors that may change things because they could have offers from several places.
Who knows really, that's why I said if we see anything, it probably wouldn't be until next month. I will say though, that changes like the PSA raises has a huge and immediate impact on recruiting. I remember when Envoy raised the pay for FO's, it was nearly instant in terms of upping recruiting. I would assume the inverse is true. Should be interesting to see what comes of all of this, if anything.
Who knows really, that's why I said if we see anything, it probably wouldn't be until next month. I will say though, that changes like the PSA raises has a huge and immediate impact on recruiting. I remember when Envoy raised the pay for FO's, it was nearly instant in terms of upping recruiting. I would assume the inverse is true. Should be interesting to see what comes of all of this, if anything.
The RTP has been huge for Envoy. But the reality is the $22K Envoy adds to the pot is rapidly consumed by some of the Coast fees and the program stretching out. Add that to having to pay for a place to live and being unemployed, most people would be ahead to just knock everything out while they still are in the service or otherwise employed. Strategically using vacation and days off, putting in a flight three or four nights a week you can get your ratings and time just as quickly. If you can find someone to partner with to share time as “safety pilot” even better.
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04-14-2019, 09:09 PM
#716
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,595
Scientific prediction for next classes, you heard it here first.
7 145
14 175
Plus an unpredictable number of DECs.
If classes are bigger, those numbers will go up in same ratio.
This trend will continue for at least the next two classes. No 100% 175 classes planned. One a bit lighter on the 175 class coming after that and then a very 175 heavy class. And one 100% 145 class in a few months.
Now let's see how this prediction goes (no, there's no science here, just a WAG).
7 145
14 175
Plus an unpredictable number of DECs.
If classes are bigger, those numbers will go up in same ratio.
This trend will continue for at least the next two classes. No 100% 175 classes planned. One a bit lighter on the 175 class coming after that and then a very 175 heavy class. And one 100% 145 class in a few months.
Now let's see how this prediction goes (no, there's no science here, just a WAG).
04-15-2019, 02:58 AM
#717
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
Scientific prediction for next classes, you heard it here first.
7 145
14 175
Plus an unpredictable number of DECs.
If classes are bigger, those numbers will go up in same ratio.
This trend will continue for at least the next two classes. No 100% 175 classes planned. One a bit lighter on the 175 class coming after that and then a very 175 heavy class. And one 100% 145 class in a few months.
Now let's see how this prediction goes (no, there's no science here, just a WAG).
7 145
14 175
Plus an unpredictable number of DECs.
If classes are bigger, those numbers will go up in same ratio.
This trend will continue for at least the next two classes. No 100% 175 classes planned. One a bit lighter on the 175 class coming after that and then a very 175 heavy class. And one 100% 145 class in a few months.
Now let's see how this prediction goes (no, there's no science here, just a WAG).
04-15-2019, 06:42 AM
#719
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
You cannot interview at a wholly-owned having accepted a conditional offer from another wholly-owned. So you’d have to either ignore or decline the conditional offer, if you’ve already accepted they’ll turn you away. You probably can’t go back to “maybe” after saying “yes.”
04-15-2019, 06:50 AM
#720
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 48
You cannot interview at a wholly-owned having accepted a conditional offer from another wholly-owned. So you’d have to either ignore or decline the conditional offer, if you’ve already accepted they’ll turn you away. You probably can’t go back to “maybe” after saying “yes.”
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