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#1991
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
So like um-teen-hundred years ago when I was on airport stand-by (for another major company)....you sat at the airport for 4 hours....if not used, you got paid 4 hrs per diem PLUS 5 hrs of flt pay credited towards your reserve guarantee (since our 1 day trips were worth 5 hours). I can't believe in 2022 ya'll don't get any flight time pay credit for sitting there 8 hours..........when is your next contract up for negotiations? Because this sucks
Very few sequences at Envoy even come close to averaging 5 hours a day. That would make a four day worth 20 hours and I’d say less than 15% of four days are worth that much. Average four day is about 16 hours. 16 hours x five sequences of four days gives you 80 hours and eleven days off. Most lines have closer to 74 hours average and 13 days off. You do the math. If you happen to be a keyboard warrior who is good with archaic computer languages and lucky enough to be able to sit at your iPad when the trade period opens, and IF your sequence isn’t considered “critical”, you might be able to trade some of those sequences for something with a little more credit.
Envoy is NOT a major company in any way, shape or form and the contract reflects accordingly.
The contract will not be improved. The company has no desire to improve it. PERIOD
#1992
#1993
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
Well, day trips being worth at least 5 hours of credit would be great, for ANY trip at Envoy would be great, but you’re not just shooting for the moon, you’re a shooting for the stars.
Very few sequences at Envoy even come close to averaging 5 hours a day. That would make a four day worth 20 hours and I’d say less than 15% of four days are worth that much. Average four day is about 16 hours. 16 hours x five sequences of four days gives you 80 hours and eleven days off. Most lines have closer to 74 hours average and 13 days off. You do the math. If you happen to be a keyboard warrior who is good with archaic computer languages and lucky enough to be able to sit at your iPad when the trade period opens, and IF your sequence isn’t considered “critical”, you might be able to trade some of those sequences for something with a little more credit.
Envoy is NOT a major company in any way, shape or form and the contract reflects accordingly.
The contract will not be improved. The company has no desire to improve it. PERIOD
Very few sequences at Envoy even come close to averaging 5 hours a day. That would make a four day worth 20 hours and I’d say less than 15% of four days are worth that much. Average four day is about 16 hours. 16 hours x five sequences of four days gives you 80 hours and eleven days off. Most lines have closer to 74 hours average and 13 days off. You do the math. If you happen to be a keyboard warrior who is good with archaic computer languages and lucky enough to be able to sit at your iPad when the trade period opens, and IF your sequence isn’t considered “critical”, you might be able to trade some of those sequences for something with a little more credit.
Envoy is NOT a major company in any way, shape or form and the contract reflects accordingly.
The contract will not be improved. The company has no desire to improve it. PERIOD
#1995
Crewroom Couch Warmer
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Position: 145 FO
Posts: 98
I wonder what kind of parachute upper management gets if Envoy dissolves
#1996
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 28
44 resignations at the bottom that survey and only nine days into the month.
The last number I saw for January was 97.
I’ve enjoyed working with everyone here and hope for their sakes we don’t close doors. However, I think that anyone flowing in 2023 or later should be looking for an exit just to ensure they still have a paycheck. Regardless, everyone should be based on lost seniority at the majors each month alone.
#1997
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 413
#1998
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,707
You notice the increased station ground personnel are pdt and not envoy.
pedro is missing in action, they put a letter out every now and then supposedly by him but in reality no one at any airport facility has seen pedro for at least 2 years except on the sms video.
pedro is missing in action, they put a letter out every now and then supposedly by him but in reality no one at any airport facility has seen pedro for at least 2 years except on the sms video.
#2000
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Position: Gear Slinger
Posts: 48
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