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Old 10-06-2021, 09:41 PM
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Does the training center close for Thanksgiving/Christmas? I’m thinking I’ll be doing sims toward the end of November.
Nah, they are working Thanksgiving
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Old 10-07-2021, 06:32 AM
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If AAG wanted to pull a Delta move, then they would combine all of PDT, ENY, and AA ground crews, and then spin it off as “AA Worldwide Services” which increases the profit sharing margin since it would be shared acrosss 85k employees instead of 136k


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Where in my points have I described market share?

By global optimization, not sub system optimization, consolidation reduces overall cost in the long term, even though there is extra cost in the short term. If you think beyond this quarter or this year, you would see this.

you’re dealing with a company that knows to the penny the break even point on carrying their inflight magazine, and make no bones about removing them all once they stop generating a profit. Their short game is their long game.

they’ve already moved 1 of the 2 E145 sims out of their bought and paid for buildings. The second will be going too. They aren’t divesting themselves of the sims if their plan is to continue being a 145 operator. PDT will vanish. PSA & ENY will be consolidated.
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Old 10-07-2021, 08:18 AM
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If AAG wanted to pull a Delta move, then they would combine all of PDT, ENY, and AA ground crews, and then spin it off as “AA Worldwide Services” which increases the profit sharing margin since it would be shared acrosss 85k employees instead of 136k
It needs to be a dumb name that is neither a real word nor a direct link to AA. That way, when performance tanks, they can blame it on something a normal person can't spell, not an entity with the parent company in the name.

How about Enmont?
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It needs to be a dumb name that is neither a real word nor a direct link to AA. That way, when performance tanks, they can blame it on something a normal person can't spell, not an entity with the parent company in the name.

How about Enmont?

Ahhh yes yes, what about PiedVoySA?


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Old 10-07-2021, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
It needs to be a dumb name that is neither a real word nor a direct link to AA. That way, when performance tanks, they can blame it on something a normal person can't spell, not an entity with the parent company in the name.

How about Enmont?
Nah, it has to be named after an SUV.
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
you’re dealing with a company that knows to the penny the break even point on carrying their inflight magazine, and make no bones about removing them all once they stop generating a profit. Their short game is their long game.

they’ve already moved 1 of the 2 E145 sims out of their bought and paid for buildings. The second will be going too. They aren’t divesting themselves of the sims if their plan is to continue being a 145 operator. PDT will vanish. PSA & ENY will be consolidated.
So, you agree with my other post. Envoy, Piedmont, and PSA will all merge into one new American Eagle brand.

If Envoy & Piedmont keep a few E145s for a few thin routes for intermediate years (till the few 16 year old aircraft time out), it would not justify them keeping any E145 sims in the their own shop. Why would you keep a sim you are only going to use 10 - 40 hours per week, total? It would be cheaper to rent time for training.

United has publicly stated they are going to get rid of most of their 50 seaters. They will keep a small number for EAS and a few others. I would see AA would follow suit.
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So, you agree with my other post. Envoy, Piedmont, and PSA will all merge into one new American Eagle brand.

If Envoy & Piedmont keep a few E145s for a few thin routes for intermediate years (till the few 16 year old aircraft time out), it would not justify them keeping any E145 sims in the their own shop. Why would you keep a sim you are only going to use 10 - 40 hours per week, total? It would be cheaper to rent time for training.
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I said all that back in 2012 during the bankruptcy merger. Thanks for agreeing with me.

they won’t keep a single 145. Those will be contractors.
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I said all that back in 2012 during the bankruptcy merger. Thanks for agreeing with me.

they won’t keep a single 145. Those will be contractors.
I disagree. No current AAG contractor flies the 145 and I don’t see them adding another contractor back I or a current one adding them either. The WOs have ended up with the crappy flying, and that’s how it will stay until no one flies 145s anymore.
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I disagree. No current AAG contractor flies the 145 and I don’t see them adding another contractor back I or a current one adding them either. The WOs have ended up with the crappy flying, and that’s how it will stay until no one flies 145s anymore.
That's the point. IF they are flying, it won't be a WO doing it. It's why the 145 sims are being moved off property. Those planes will be gone in 2 years.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a place like Sterling get a CPA from AA to expand their existing E145 program. Wexford Capital is behind them; Wayne Heller (formerly Republic) is running things there on the 121 side. lots of things in play out there that could surprise people. Heck, just to show the myriad of options, AAG could even just transfer all the employees a few at a time to either PSA or ENY. Announce a downsizing, and offer transfer or furlough. Planes and excess equipment go to Sterling under a new CPA.
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