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09-30-2021, 07:16 AM
#1711
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2021
Position: FO ERJ175
Posts: 6
I got my conditional offer and scheduled a class date last week. The earliest available was Nov. 29th. I scheduled ATP-CTP for a few weeks before that. Today I just got a phone call from recruiting saying that they are “doing away with training on the 29th” and now I’m going to orientation to put me on payroll on Nov. 18th instead. They said I’d have 7 days notice when my Indoc date will be, but it will most likely be after the holidays. Is this cause they need the instructor pilots back on the line for the busy season? Or is there something else going on that I’m missing?
09-30-2021, 10:30 AM
#1712
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 45
I got my conditional offer and scheduled a class date last week. The earliest available was Nov. 29th. I scheduled ATP-CTP for a few weeks before that. Today I just got a phone call from recruiting saying that they are “doing away with training on the 29th” and now I’m going to orientation to put me on payroll on Nov. 18th instead. They said I’d have 7 days notice when my Indoc date will be, but it will most likely be after the holidays. Is this cause they need the instructor pilots back on the line for the busy season? Or is there something else going on that I’m missing?
09-30-2021, 10:34 AM
#1713
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2021
Position: FO ERJ175
Posts: 6
10-01-2021, 06:38 AM
#1714
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
Why not? If you expect things mgmt. does to make sense from their own perspective or anyone else's, you're at the wrong airline. This place nut punches themselves regularly. AA too, to some extent, but there are very few companies that continue to exist that behave the way Envoy does. Strap in and get used to it - or learn to enjoy it, like I have - either way, the sooner you do the less disappointed you'll be.
10-01-2021, 08:19 AM
#1715
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2021
Posts: 7
I got my conditional offer and scheduled a class date last week. The earliest available was Nov. 29th. I scheduled ATP-CTP for a few weeks before that. Today I just got a phone call from recruiting saying that they are “doing away with training on the 29th” and now I’m going to orientation to put me on payroll on Nov. 18th instead. They said I’d have 7 days notice when my Indoc date will be, but it will most likely be after the holidays. Is this cause they need the instructor pilots back on the line for the busy season? Or is there something else going on that I’m missing?
10-02-2021, 03:22 AM
#1717
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: ERJ Right
Posts: 541
There is also a very healthy captain upgrade vacancy bid which will eat into the elements listed above.
This business is very complex with a ton of moving parts. Some places are just better at dealing with it than others.
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10-02-2021, 06:55 AM
#1718
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
I would guess it has more to do with availability of some element in the training pipeline. This could be ground instructors, sim instructors, class room space, ground procedures training device availability or the acheeleys heel of every airline when things get busy, sim availability.
There is also a very healthy captain upgrade vacancy bid which will eat into the elements listed above.
This business is very complex with a ton of moving parts. Some places are just better at dealing with it than others.
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There is also a very healthy captain upgrade vacancy bid which will eat into the elements listed above.
This business is very complex with a ton of moving parts. Some places are just better at dealing with it than others.
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10-02-2021, 04:31 PM
#1719
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 11
I got my conditional offer and scheduled a class date last week. The earliest available was Nov. 29th. I scheduled ATP-CTP for a few weeks before that. Today I just got a phone call from recruiting saying that they are “doing away with training on the 29th” and now I’m going to orientation to put me on payroll on Nov. 18th instead. They said I’d have 7 days notice when my Indoc date will be, but it will most likely be after the holidays. Is this cause they need the instructor pilots back on the line for the busy season? Or is there something else going on that I’m missing?
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