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#1641
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Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 71
I’m doing ctp now and orientation on the 13th. They said I’ll be sent home for a few weeks to wait for a hard indoc class date.
#1642
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,633
They did not select equipment back when they did the 1 day visit. That would have been nasty for the recalled pilots.
#1643
Not locked into a base, even as a FO. Upgrade incurs a two year equipment lock, unless displaced and one year before you can flow to AA.
Bonus aren’t really as much to encourage upgrade as it is to keep those captains at the respective company. There are hundreds, maybe as many as a 7-800 that have the time to upgrade, waiting for a vacancy and those will be very much based on seniority. But then there is a big hole after that with folks that have been stuck on reserve and no one hired below them. Those 1000 hour two plus year FOs are the ones mostly leaving. 60 or so total in August. Probably 60% FOs. They don’t think they can upgrade anytime soon so bailing for ULLCs and ACMI.
Bonus aren’t really as much to encourage upgrade as it is to keep those captains at the respective company. There are hundreds, maybe as many as a 7-800 that have the time to upgrade, waiting for a vacancy and those will be very much based on seniority. But then there is a big hole after that with folks that have been stuck on reserve and no one hired below them. Those 1000 hour two plus year FOs are the ones mostly leaving. 60 or so total in August. Probably 60% FOs. They don’t think they can upgrade anytime soon so bailing for ULLCs and ACMI.
#1644
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Well, once the movement/hiring gets moving in the months to come, won't everyone that has their 1000 121 get a chance at upgrading before too long? I'm sure there are plenty of FOs that did get hired at the start of 2020 and don't have their 1000 121, so I can see it being a while for them to upgrade. I guess the guys you mention that would be at the bottom of that eligible for upgrade list don't want to wait any longer, but either way it sounds like if things do improve as predicted everyone that wants it would get their chance if they wait it out a little.
#1646
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,498
The fact that they're bailing indicates that they don't have to wait.
#1648
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
#1649
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 71
I was referencing the guy a few pages back that said RW recently mentioned classes starting every week beginning in September.
#1650
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Now, that being said, they can do what they want. There are some reasons they might choose to do different start dates, although a phased onboarding where you get a seniority number already does that.
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