So You Want To Fly For Envoy?
08-23-2018, 11:26 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 208
Most likely scenario here is that you were fired from Envoy and are just jealous. None of your post rings true. It just sounds like a bitter, disgruntled former employee who won't have the opportunity to flow to American Airlines. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
08-23-2018, 01:10 PM
#22
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Position: Resigned
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I wonder what DEC attrition figures are like, how many drop out of our industry-leading training program (I notice no one is contesting his claims about the training dept lol) and how many make it to RSV before bailing.
08-24-2018, 05:01 AM
#25
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The sims have always gone well, both with the instructors and training. Envoy wants you in and out fast, so you need to be able to adapt to that style of training.
08-24-2018, 09:15 AM
#26
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I agree with the original poster on the majority of their comments. I left for Endeavor a little over 2 years ago and everything across the board is markedly better at Endeavor when compared to Envoy. Primarily the punitive culture Envoy seems to employ in most aspects of the operation was noticeably absent at Endeavor.
08-24-2018, 09:22 AM
#27
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I agree with the original poster on the majority of their comments. I left for Endeavor a little over 2 years ago and everything across the board is markedly better at Endeavor when compared to Envoy. Primarily the punitive culture Envoy seems to employ in most aspects of the operation was noticeably absent at Endeavor.
Care to elaborate?
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08-24-2018, 02:49 PM
#28
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08-25-2018, 02:23 PM
#29
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My class date is relatively soon. I know I’m new and the cupcake phase will end but my thought process about all of the regionals is which one has a better offer if you were stuck there for 10 years. I’ve read the contracts of Envoy, Endeavor, Republic and Skywest.
Yeah our contract isn’t the best but it will be updated eventually when it expires in a few years even with that being said for how outdated our contract is I still think it’s the 3rd best one out there.
I do appreciate posts like yours to give new guys further insight, it’s very thoughtful and is the point of posting on APC. With that being said, the grass isn’t always greener on the other side. I’ve seen some negative posts even from Endeavor guys even though they are the top regional to be at right now. Again I know it’s to vent but it’s just like, sad to see after working hard to reach minimums only to hear the guys I look up to bash their company...
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08-25-2018, 03:28 PM
#30
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 40
Stay away- union doesn’t protect anyone
“including an uptick in overspeed events which, after the required AML entry and Pipeline report, is causing our pilots to incur PRIA reportable remedial training, even for minor transitory incursions above red line.”
Excerpt from last MEC email. Hostile work environment all day everyday.
Excerpt from last MEC email. Hostile work environment all day everyday.
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