Current Envoy Facts
05-22-2018, 09:22 AM
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I think you're projecting because you're trying to make it look nicer than it is. That's very misleading, the average new hire is unlikely to get the 175 and therefore won't get ORD.
No one is getting out on the first bid. "Generally" two bids? So just say ~8 months, plus several months to transfer and we're up to around 12 months NFE. Then, what if you're unlucky and they don't do a bid one quarter or something? Or class sizes continue to shrink?
Sure, you might get out of NY before you're done with training. You might get called by American before you finish ground school.
No one is getting out on the first bid. "Generally" two bids? So just say ~8 months, plus several months to transfer and we're up to around 12 months NFE. Then, what if you're unlucky and they don't do a bid one quarter or something? Or class sizes continue to shrink?
Sure, you might get out of NY before you're done with training. You might get called by American before you finish ground school.
I’m no company cheerleader but 2 years is so far off the mark.
05-22-2018, 09:25 AM
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2 years is a worst case scenario but entirely possible if current trends continue.
05-22-2018, 10:31 AM
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Take a peek at some reserve lists and you'll realize these machines are already partly staffed by people who already have seniority numbers. Are you saying none of those 145's are going to LGA?
2 years is a worst case scenario but entirely possible if current trends continue.
2 years is a worst case scenario but entirely possible if current trends continue.
05-22-2018, 04:47 PM
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So on that day, I purposely drove the minivan crossover hybrid POS thingy into the ditch, set it on fire, and went out and bought a b!tchin sweet poon magnet Super Musclecar (on credit). I shaved out the greyhairs, dyed the rest, and gave myself frosted blonde tips. I got a hip gangster tattoo on my neck (that #%=_€in HURT!), made it rain at a strip club (FFR, stay away from Staletto's in Dallas. They won't let you throw change... WTF!?!?) Hired a hooker to try some blow with, but she turned out to be a COP! Quit my job to become a cook at Twin Peaks,andpart time strip club DJ. That was a bad idea...
Thanks for ruining my life LVA!!!!
05-22-2018, 06:11 PM
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In all fairness it took me about 8-9 months to get back to DFW from LGA (new hire class July 2017)and there were classes of 50-60 people back then after mine for a while.. it looks like now the classes are a lot smaller like 25-30 people max so based on that I guess you could figure a little over a year now?
I'd be shocked if you under estimated the time but I wouldn't be shocked if your predictions is fairly accurate.
05-22-2018, 06:33 PM
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It's basically gauranteed if you're a cadet, provided they actually offer it. You are also likely to get it if you are very old. Born in the 70's? CRJ tends to go senior because they aren't offering ORD 145 and people will do anything to avoid NY historically, although the LOA might help?
Don't come here if you aren't comfortable with a 2 year sentence to LGA 145 as an FO though, no one can tell you exactly how long it will take to escape from New York and there have been entire classes where NO 175 slots were offered and everyone got the flush.
Envoy has capped classes but is not restricting pipelines - cadets, etc. and still seems to be running 2 classes a month.
Don't come here if you aren't comfortable with a 2 year sentence to LGA 145 as an FO though, no one can tell you exactly how long it will take to escape from New York and there have been entire classes where NO 175 slots were offered and everyone got the flush.
Envoy has capped classes but is not restricting pipelines - cadets, etc. and still seems to be running 2 classes a month.
05-23-2018, 02:00 AM
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05-23-2018, 06:32 AM
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How many guys are upgrading a year now. How big is the pilot group? When the guys from the start of the wave start to get 1000 121 time then there will be no more street captains. Just like when a few years ago people realized psa had hired their last super fast upgrade and those hired for the rest of the fleet growth would be fos for some time. Please save this post and throw it back at me if I’m wrong. I predict street captains end in 6 months. Don’t be that last street captain hired.
05-23-2018, 08:23 AM
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I’m about to apply soon and was wondering if anyone has a decent time frame of when I would be able to start class. No 121 time but 700 hrs of multi and a Captain referral will be with my resume. Think this might help at all? I don’t mind waiting a little as I’ve been on the road for the last 8 months. I’m avoiding republic as I know they are on their way out. PSA is another option but financially crippling with moving. I live 2 hrs from MIA.
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