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05-18-2018, 01:40 PM
#42
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I’d figure that the 175 would be fun to fly until I get my 1000 hours and upgrade to the 145. That’s probably shiny jet syndrome talking haha I’ll end up picking 145 so I can eventually drive to work. I hope the 175 comes to MIA, that’d be a game changer for me.
05-18-2018, 02:04 PM
#43
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You're giving up $5,000 in bonus money with that route. Both airplanes pay the same otherwise.
05-18-2018, 02:04 PM
#44
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The 175 is in MIA at Republic. Just saying..
05-18-2018, 02:07 PM
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Wouldn't you rather have an extra $5k in your pocket and 1,000 hours of experience under your belt in the 145 since that's what you'd be upgrading into? Trust me, it's a lot easier upgrading into the equipment you know. It all pays the same brotha. Don't fall victim to SJS, use your brain and some logic.
05-18-2018, 02:22 PM
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05-18-2018, 03:35 PM
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Commuting is cancer and while the 175 is a great plane, most who have flown the 145 loved it as well. If MIA is your long term goal, don’t be silly and just take the 145. It will make upgrade training so much easier.
Best advice I was given just prior to coming into this business was “pick the base and NEVER chase a specific plane”. After a couple hundred hours a plane is a plane is a plane.
Best advice I was given just prior to coming into this business was “pick the base and NEVER chase a specific plane”. After a couple hundred hours a plane is a plane is a plane.
05-18-2018, 08:56 PM
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Completely false. AA Group 2 is still higher than the AIP for 2018 and 2019, with 2019 being the end of the current AA contract.
2018 Year 1, 2 and 12 FO Bus pay respectively: $86, $117, $173. AA Group 2 FO: $88, $133, $184.
2019 Year 1, 2 and 12 FO Bus pay respectively: $88, $119, $177. AA Group 2 FO: $90, $137, $190.
2018 Year 1, 2 and 12 CA Bus pay respectively: $225, $228, $259. AA Group 2 CA: $248, $250, $270.
2019 Year 1, 2 and 12 CA Bus pay respectively: $230, $232, $264. AA Group 2 CA: $255, $257, $278.
Now, I’m not saying that JB isn’t paying excellent money and that they wouldn’t be a great place to work for. It’s big money and my friends that work there enjoy it. But I don’t know where guys get this completely false information that not only JB is now gonna pay their Bus drivers more than AA. Just like the nonsense some guys were claiming that Spirit’s new TA pays their Bus drivers more than AA. Simply not true.
2018 Year 1, 2 and 12 FO Bus pay respectively: $86, $117, $173. AA Group 2 FO: $88, $133, $184.
2019 Year 1, 2 and 12 FO Bus pay respectively: $88, $119, $177. AA Group 2 FO: $90, $137, $190.
2018 Year 1, 2 and 12 CA Bus pay respectively: $225, $228, $259. AA Group 2 CA: $248, $250, $270.
2019 Year 1, 2 and 12 CA Bus pay respectively: $230, $232, $264. AA Group 2 CA: $255, $257, $278.
Now, I’m not saying that JB isn’t paying excellent money and that they wouldn’t be a great place to work for. It’s big money and my friends that work there enjoy it. But I don’t know where guys get this completely false information that not only JB is now gonna pay their Bus drivers more than AA. Just like the nonsense some guys were claiming that Spirit’s new TA pays their Bus drivers more than AA. Simply not true.
- How long till you flow to AA? How long to Spirit/JetBlue?
- How long to upgrade to NB CA at AA/Spirit/JetBlue?
- How long to hold the base you want at all of the above?
- How likely are you to keep the job if economy tanks? What if the oil price doubles?
- How are the QoL items? STD/LTD? 401k contributions? How many years you have left till 65?
It doesn't automatically boil to $/hr and there is no one size fits all answer
05-19-2018, 12:12 AM
#50
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Wouldn't you rather have an extra $5k in your pocket and 1,000 hours of experience under your belt in the 145 since that's what you'd be upgrading into? Trust me, it's a lot easier upgrading into the equipment you know. It all pays the same brotha. Don't fall victim to SJS, use your brain and some logic.
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