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This makes no sense. Why would you leave a 300k captain wide body job for envoy? I mean if you overseas you could work the next 10-15 years and retire. Not sure why you would consider this $hitthole management style company over staying where you are.

havick206

Agreed. No sense in leaving an already high paying job on a widebody

pilotmunk

The guy probably just wants to come home after expatting for years.

AZPilotMike

Depending on how long he/she has been doing the work, money may not even be an issue anymore. Invested wisely and having earned that for some years would be plenty to bank on later down the road, especially considering they will continue to work in the states. Living overseas gets rough, especially in certain regions and no amount of money is enough to keep you doing it.

pitchattitude

https://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/04/30/emirates-is-storing-over-45-planes-in-the-next-few-months/

With the current hiring trend in the states, expats are coming back. But that opens up opportunities for other. It definitely is not for everyone though.

flightforfood

Pilot munk you hit it on the nail have being in Asia for 11 years and it is hard. I have the stomach for it, yet I think it is time to come home and work quietly for about 12 years in peace that do not have to worry about the stupid medicals and the out of control sim checks every 6 months. Plus the headache of being alone and not wanting to subject my family to the **** hole of a country I live in.

Think about flying for 11 hours and not say a word other than checklist and them being ignore by the entire crew. They are always trying to cheat you in time off and the local hotels are worse than the worse in Haiti. Money is not everything after you reach a point where you think is enough.

Thank you for the info, yet I think Envoy is a very distress company at the moment. By the comments, I feel a lot of angry people there, for that stay where I am keep looking.

thanks again

AZPilotMike

I wouldn't read to much into the attitude around here, we tend to be the extreme case of employees in the sense that we actually come here and post. I think "generally" people are happy working here if they can manage to live in base or near it.

Curious though, with all of your wide body time, why are you looking at the regionals? I may have missed this response earlier so if so, apologies up front.

flightforfood

I am already 53 years old with no real collage degree. I have applied to AA, Delta, United and they have not answer. I found that the money offered by Envoy was around what I was looking for in a job in the USA and was looking to be base in Miami. I am in China now, job is not bad, but get all after 12 commute a year and have your kids cry in on facetime screaming daddy daddy about 3 times a month, and like I said earlier money and airplane are **** compare to family and tranquility. I be happy flying a C172 out my nearby airport if pay me to pay the bills and have a decent life.

Thanks of the Info AZpilotMike. I will try and see where it take me. I always can say no.

AZPilotMike

Understood. Envoy has a lot of advantages for someone in your position. You can make as captain 75k pretty easy and I do know guys that hit close to that 100k mark by getting creative with picking up trips in base.

In addition we have the Miami base and being owned by AA offers us some of the better travel benefits around. I find the insurance to be above average for our level in the industry.

Best of luck to you.

3EngineTaxi

Flightforfood, have you applied to any low cost carriers? There are a couple airlines based in FLL with significantly better pay and quality of life than any regionals.