American Splits $1.4 Billion Jet Buy
05-04-2018, 11:50 AM
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05-04-2018, 01:15 PM
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05-04-2018, 01:36 PM
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Doubt it. The training costs of the 190 have to be through the roof. No one stays in the right seat of the that thing. As soon as they can bid off they do.(6 month lock for NH’s) and no one bids from bus or 73 to the 190. CA’s bid off a lot too. Group 2 FO is the same as CA group 1. Why not make the same, and not do the crap flying that thing does.
05-04-2018, 01:40 PM
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Doubt it. The training costs of the 190 have to be through the roof. No one stays in the right seat of the that thing. As soon as they can bid off they do.(6 month lock for NH’s) and no one bids from bus or 73 to the 190. CA’s bid off a lot too. Group 2 FO is the same as CA group 1. Why not make the same, and not do the crap flying that thing does.
05-04-2018, 01:51 PM
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I foresee, as there becomes a greater shortage of pilots in the regionals, much of the 50 seaters will be sent to the desert, replaced by fewer flights of 76 seaters. Then the 76 seaters, where loads justify it, will be replaced by a 100 seater (Group 1) or in a few cases a 150 seater.
Just for a point of reference, AA Group 1 second year FO pay is 66% of AA Group 2 second year FO (737/A320).
Without consideration of bonus, Envoy regional second year FO pay is 30% of AA Group 2 second year FO.
05-04-2018, 04:44 PM
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I think Delta has accelerated some of the “taking back” of its brand and its flying.
UA has some interesting corners it has painted itself into in regards to its regionals and will likely follow Delta’s lead in the coming years with a large order of 100 seat aircraft.
AA I think has been watching closely but hasn’t quite seen fit to pull that trigger just yet. First they will start parking 50 seaters (which apparently we are going to start seeing in 2019). Then as it becomes necessary they will reduce their 76 seat flying and that is likely when we would see a Group 1 aircraft order from AA. They have a good thing (read: profitable) going with their regionals right now.
UA has some interesting corners it has painted itself into in regards to its regionals and will likely follow Delta’s lead in the coming years with a large order of 100 seat aircraft.
AA I think has been watching closely but hasn’t quite seen fit to pull that trigger just yet. First they will start parking 50 seaters (which apparently we are going to start seeing in 2019). Then as it becomes necessary they will reduce their 76 seat flying and that is likely when we would see a Group 1 aircraft order from AA. They have a good thing (read: profitable) going with their regionals right now.
05-05-2018, 05:41 PM
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I think Delta has accelerated some of the “taking back” of its brand and its flying.
UA has some interesting corners it has painted itself into in regards to its regionals and will likely follow Delta’s lead in the coming years with a large order of 100 seat aircraft.
AA I think has been watching closely but hasn’t quite seen fit to pull that trigger just yet. First they will start parking 50 seaters (which apparently we are going to start seeing in 2019). Then as it becomes necessary they will reduce their 76 seat flying and that is likely when we would see a Group 1 aircraft order from AA. They have a good thing (read: profitable) going with their regionals right now.
UA has some interesting corners it has painted itself into in regards to its regionals and will likely follow Delta’s lead in the coming years with a large order of 100 seat aircraft.
AA I think has been watching closely but hasn’t quite seen fit to pull that trigger just yet. First they will start parking 50 seaters (which apparently we are going to start seeing in 2019). Then as it becomes necessary they will reduce their 76 seat flying and that is likely when we would see a Group 1 aircraft order from AA. They have a good thing (read: profitable) going with their regionals right now.
