Predictions on next vacancy/displacement bid?
03-22-2018, 05:08 PM
#62
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 394
I get pretty annoyed with the union bashing in thread after thread. Guess what? It’s your union. If you don’t like how it’s being run then volunteer or run for election. Complaining on APC does nothing.
Last fall, the union and the company reached a reserve LOA. It had gives on both sides, but still favored the company. The MEC pulled the LOA without a vote because the pilot groups response was so strong against it. The company then decided to take their ball and go home and stopped negotiating for the winter. The union can’t do much to improve things if the company won’t meet with them. Bottom line, don’t blame the union, blame management.
Last fall, the union and the company reached a reserve LOA. It had gives on both sides, but still favored the company. The MEC pulled the LOA without a vote because the pilot groups response was so strong against it. The company then decided to take their ball and go home and stopped negotiating for the winter. The union can’t do much to improve things if the company won’t meet with them. Bottom line, don’t blame the union, blame management.
03-22-2018, 05:21 PM
#63
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Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 92
It is an easy solution. We need to maintain a smaller size airline that can be sustainably managed. Growth costs money. If they want growth, it will require seniority numbers at AA. At what point do all the bonuses and displacements make it no longer fiscally attractive to operate Envoy separate from AA
Taking eny/pdt/psa pilots and their associated equipment and moving them to the AA side would solve a lot of problems.
03-22-2018, 06:31 PM
#64
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
We're getting close. The current regional model is simply not sustainable. The problems we're having with staffing are going to continue to get worse. Delta is already starting to internalize their regional feed by keeping the 717 around and ordering the C series.
Taking eny/pdt/psa pilots and their associated equipment and moving them to the AA side would solve a lot of problems.
Taking eny/pdt/psa pilots and their associated equipment and moving them to the AA side would solve a lot of problems.
03-22-2018, 08:33 PM
#65
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,723
We just hired 1100+ pilots since Jan 2017. We are planning on 1500 pilots hired in 2017/18. There isn't a staffing issue with new hires. There was a COM AIR 2.0 issue a few years back that caused the current issue. Also, if you haven't been informed our CAs are waiting patiently for the flow. We have very little out side CA attrition. Envoy will continue to grow. The only thing is where will the planes come from?
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