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Old 04-23-2018, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
I'm looking to transfer up there this summer if it's going to be as bad as they say.
Whens the next bid???
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:16 AM
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Whens the next bid???
3 months from the last one.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:21 AM
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Get a hold of the union and if you can find someone that wants Miami you may be able to initiate a MIDT.

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Get a hold of the union and if you can find someone that wants Miami you may be able to initiate a MIDT.

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I heard they were going to be more frequent...any truth to that?!?
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Originally Posted by Gooselives
I heard they were going to be more frequent...any truth to that?!?
I doubt it, with all the pilots that are displaced and haven’t gone to training yet they won’t want to risk people sport bidding.
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Originally Posted by havick206
I doubt it, with all the pilots that are displaced and haven’t gone to training yet they won’t want to risk people sport bidding.
The company is in a predicament. There was a grievance filed over the company awarding new hires captain slots, that is why everyone is awarded FO now. So company has to either (A) negotiate with ALPA and actually follow through with what is negotiated, (B) have more frequent vacancy bids, or (C) have DECs spend 5-6 months in training.
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Originally Posted by moon
The company is in a predicament. There was a grievance filed over the company awarding new hires captain slots, that is why everyone is awarded FO now. So company has to either (A) negotiate with ALPA and actually follow through with what is negotiated, (B) have more frequent vacancy bids, or (C) have DECs spend 5-6 months in training.
B ). Let the games begin
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Old 04-23-2018, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206
I doubt it, with all the pilots that are displaced and haven’t gone to training yet they won’t want to risk people sport bidding.


1. Company does not fear sport bidding. Regional airlines everywhere are facing a shortage of Captains. Our training center can handle monthly vacancies. Monthly vacancies will normalize projections, and management in this new era want realistic data and projections for planning. Maybe vacancies and flow-plan every quarter gave them that in the past. But It is taking much longer for management to respond & to plan when dynamics are changing so fast.

2. If sport bidding was going to be a concern, company legal & mgmt jargons full of subliminal threat, intimidation & HI6 msgs will be out in force with a anti-sport bidding campaign (similar to fuel savings campaign). Nobody wants to sport bid purposefully anyways. Sports bidding is essentially screwing fellow union pilots. It hurts those that want a specific bid status anyways.

3. We need more CAs on board via traditional means of vacancies. Not DEC/HVA programs. It has failed, and it’s time to MEGA. Peak summer flying is upon us in a few short months. AAG has the ability to quickly shift flying to SKYWEST and other non-WO FFD. We still want normalized flow, better flying, and base options.

What happened to more bases? We gave company the “flexibility” they wanted so “when” AAG comes knocking to open up a new base we are competitive. Company got what they wanted. We got metered flow, forced upgrades, and DEC—> HVA’s quickly after that.

No good news this spring.

Question: Is it possible for the company to run a monthly vacancy, but then every 3 months run a displacement to backfill shortcomings???
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Can someone define sport bidding?

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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
1. Company does not fear sport bidding. Regional airlines everywhere are facing a shortage of Captains. Our training center can handle monthly vacancies. Monthly vacancies will normalize projections, and management in this new era want realistic data and projections for planning. Maybe vacancies and flow-plan every quarter gave them that in the past. But It is taking much longer for management to respond & to plan when dynamics are changing so fast.

2. If sport bidding was going to be a concern, company legal & mgmt jargons full of subliminal threat, intimidation & HI6 msgs will be out in force with a anti-sport bidding campaign (similar to fuel savings campaign). Nobody wants to sport bid purposefully anyways. Sports bidding is essentially screwing fellow union pilots. It hurts those that want a specific bid status anyways.

3. We need more CAs on board via traditional means of vacancies. Not DEC/HVA programs. It has failed, and it’s time to MEGA. Peak summer flying is upon us in a few short months. AAG has the ability to quickly shift flying to SKYWEST and other non-WO FFD. We still want normalized flow, better flying, and base options.

What happened to more bases? We gave company the “flexibility” they wanted so “when” AAG comes knocking to open up a new base we are competitive. Company got what they wanted. We got metered flow, forced upgrades, and DEC—> HVA’s quickly after that.

No good news this spring.

Question: Is it possible for the company to run a monthly vacancy, but then every 3 months run a displacement to backfill shortcomings???

Ummm, ok whatever you think.

There’s nothing in our ops manuals or contracts to prevent someone doing it. Not that I agree with it but the contract allows it. And thinly vailed threats by way of HI6 and red carpet dances didn’t end well recently.
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