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Old 02-18-2018, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Whiskey4
Another note to the OP... Remember that people flowing now endured five years of industry stagnation following the passage of the age 65 rule. Subtract that five years and an 11 Year pilot would possibly have only needed six years to flow (even though most weren’t even part of the flow when hired...but assuming AA employed a similar strategy but on an earlier timeline under the Age 60 rule).
Thank god the economy can’t have another hiccup and age 67 isn’t going to happen.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:19 AM
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Most junior lineholder in ORD on the 145 is an early July 2017 hire. Reserve time is RAPIDLY increasing across all bases as we are extremely overstaffed on the FO side. ORD 145 alone has 210% reserve coverage.
Wonder if this is about to change with either a base opening or just more flying due to contracts expiring
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Originally Posted by f16jetmech
Wonder if this is about to change with either a base opening or just more flying due to contracts expiring
Word is that we are going to get approval to fly with augmented crews so that f/o’s can gain flightime quicker. Seat 1A is going to be converted to a Class 1 crew rest facility so the three-man crew can have a legal in-flight rest period.
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Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot
Thank god the economy can’t have another hiccup and age 67 isn’t going to happen.
Of course, but how do you account for that in a projection? Hell, American could Pan Am itself or it could Comair II Envoy so why worry about flow time at all, right? People on property and those looking at this place are inevitably going to ask how long it will take to flow. I don’t think it’s acceptable for Envoy or even Envoy ALPA to just shrug their shoulders and say “we have no idea...anything can happen.” A reasonable projection seems fair but with a disclaimer attached that nobody has a crystal ball and unforeseen events may occur.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

History rhymes. We are long overdue for another
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

History rhymes. We are long overdue for another
But, but, but, Mr. Doug said we were recession proof, WWIII proof, and the 2nd coming of Christ proof.

Sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Word is that we are going to get approval to fly with augmented crews so that f/o’s can gain flightime quicker. Seat 1A is going to be converted to a Class 1 crew rest facility so the three-man crew can have a legal in-flight rest period.
Hahaha... The most sought after seat in the cabin.
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Old 02-26-2018, 02:35 PM
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here are the awards from the 2/26 class:

13 awarded 175 ORD
2 awarded CRJ ORD
16 "awarded" 145 LGA
4 street captains auto-assigned 145 LGA
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Wonder what the plan to replenish 25 captains a month are. Seems we are only hiring 8-10 “HVA” a month.


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Originally Posted by Sheg0theD
Wonder what the plan to replenish 25 captains a month are. Seems we are only hiring 8-10 “HVA” a month.


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The Envoy hiring boom started in August of 2016, those first officers are all coming up on 1,000 hours (or fighting to avoid it).
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