New hire considering Envoy?
03-13-2018, 10:05 AM
#101
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
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Attrition has to be about 45% for a NH for the flow to be 6 years. 2100 pilots on property. Took out the lifers.
Year1-3/ 225 pilots per year flow.
Year4-6/ 165 pilots per year flow.
675+495= 1170.
On average 13 pilots senior to you must leave for a six year flow to occur.
Year1-3/ 225 pilots per year flow.
Year4-6/ 165 pilots per year flow.
675+495= 1170.
On average 13 pilots senior to you must leave for a six year flow to occur.
03-13-2018, 11:34 AM
#103
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Joined APC: Jul 2016
Position: FO
Posts: 793
New hire considering Envoy?
The HVA $45K marketing blitz has been out for months. Is it premature to call it a bust?
I think the window to bring experiences 121 pilots from AW, XJET is closing much too quickly for us to catch up. Obviously HVA program not going as planned. A spade is a spade. HVA program appears to be a huge dud; and DOA. Seems for months not many have taken the bait, and participants/NH’s entering as HVA is actually decreasing to 0 per class.
Could they up the ante to a $55K HVA bonus???Sure. But that will only show current pilots on property how the company views us. We we’ve already taken notice.
LVA,
03-13-2018, 12:26 PM
#105
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: Gear swinger
Posts: 191
03-13-2018, 12:50 PM
#106
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 121
Posts: 17
The HVA $45K marketing blitz has been out for months. Is it premature to call it a bust?
I think the window to bring experiences 121 pilots from AW, XJET is closing much too quickly for us to catch up. Obviously HVA program not going as planned. A spade is a spade. HVA program appears to be a huge dud; and DOA. Seems for months not many have taken the bait, and participants/NH’s entering as HVA is actually decreasing to 0 per class.
Could they up the ante to a $55K HVA bonus???Sure. But that will only show current pilots on property how the company views us. We we’ve already taken notice.
LVA,
I think the window to bring experiences 121 pilots from AW, XJET is closing much too quickly for us to catch up. Obviously HVA program not going as planned. A spade is a spade. HVA program appears to be a huge dud; and DOA. Seems for months not many have taken the bait, and participants/NH’s entering as HVA is actually decreasing to 0 per class.
Could they up the ante to a $55K HVA bonus???Sure. But that will only show current pilots on property how the company views us. We we’ve already taken notice.
LVA,
I don't need the money, so give me the 175 in DFW, and sign me up. For me, it is about not having to commute and QOL. I think it is time to pass on my upcoming class date.
03-13-2018, 12:58 PM
#107
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,061
The HVA $45K marketing blitz has been out for months. Is it premature to call it a bust?
I think the window to bring experiences 121 pilots from AW, XJET is closing much too quickly for us to catch up. Obviously HVA program not going as planned. A spade is a spade. HVA program appears to be a huge dud; and DOA. Seems for months not many have taken the bait, and participants/NH’s entering as HVA is actually decreasing to 0 per class.
Could they up the ante to a $55K HVA bonus???Sure. But that will only show current pilots on property how the company views us. We we’ve already taken notice.
LVA,
I think the window to bring experiences 121 pilots from AW, XJET is closing much too quickly for us to catch up. Obviously HVA program not going as planned. A spade is a spade. HVA program appears to be a huge dud; and DOA. Seems for months not many have taken the bait, and participants/NH’s entering as HVA is actually decreasing to 0 per class.
Could they up the ante to a $55K HVA bonus???Sure. But that will only show current pilots on property how the company views us. We we’ve already taken notice.
LVA,
03-13-2018, 01:15 PM
#108
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Joined APC: May 2011
Posts: 239
Let me tell you the problem with HVA's, well at least this one. Being based in LGA Period. Since I have over 2500 121 SIC, I don't mind being upgraded right away. In fact, I would love it. What I don't want is the E145 in a base (LGA) that truly sucks, and than sit short call reserve.
I don't need the money, so give me the 175 in DFW, and sign me up. For me, it is about not having to commute and QOL. I think it is time to pass on my upcoming class date.
I don't need the money, so give me the 175 in DFW, and sign me up. For me, it is about not having to commute and QOL. I think it is time to pass on my upcoming class date.
I love this new mentality that new people should get on day one what others have worked years for.
03-13-2018, 01:16 PM
#109
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,723
Let me tell you the problem with HVA's, well at least this one. Being based in LGA Period. Since I have over 2500 121 SIC, I don't mind being upgraded right away. In fact, I would love it. What I don't want is the E145 in a base (LGA) that truly sucks, and than sit short call reserve.
I don't need the money, so give me the 175 in DFW, and sign me up. For me, it is about not having to commute and QOL. I think it is time to pass on my upcoming class date.
I don't need the money, so give me the 175 in DFW, and sign me up. For me, it is about not having to commute and QOL. I think it is time to pass on my upcoming class date.
03-13-2018, 01:24 PM
#110
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 121
Posts: 17
I’m sure management would absolutely love to give you a DFW 175 CA spot! The only problem is that people who have put in the time on this seniority list want those spots and have first right to them. Put in the time, and you can earn that spot as well.
I love this new mentality that new people should get on day one what others have worked years for.
I love this new mentality that new people should get on day one what others have worked years for.
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