highfarfast

On reserve, you'll need to bid for a schedule for one month that ends in a bunch of reserve days and then bid for a schedule for the following month that has a bunch of reserve days so that you end up with 7 straight days of reserve. You can help this along by adding OT on the last days you have off for the first month but you'll need to do it before the bid for the next month is out.

Having said that, looking back on my HI10 for when I was reserve, it looks like they didn't code it as TL, looks like it was coded as 7D... and I have always selected 'yes' for the transition. I didn't audit my pay back then, hope I was getting paid for those dropped days. There's no TL on my HI10 until I started holding a line.

Pedro4President

So for those of you commuters out there here is some advice. 1) Work the last 6 days of the month. 2) Bid a line that gets off on the 2nd and 3rd day of the month. 3) Don't bid the transition. (You still get paid for it.) Or at least I have always been paid when I forgot to select the transition.

Doing these three things will create a 6 on 3 or 4 off schedule guaranteed. Do anything else and you could end up with a random day off in the middle somewhere. If you string together anymore than 7 days then you will get a group of days on with 1 day off in the middle somewhere. What some guys are doing is stringing 7 days of work in a row and expecting the company to give them a day off that bumps up next to a day off. However, when you bid the transition you let the company give you a 3 on 1 off 3 on schedule and as a commuter it sucks!

havick206

Bad advice. You might have been lucky getting paid by not selecting transition. But they are not required to pay you for removed flying unless you select yes for transition.

The advice about working the last 6 days of the month and having day 2 and 3 of next month off is sound though.

Also for the guys that bid overlapping flying. You will get removed from flying that overlaps and it will be coded as DC (direct conflict). DC is unpaid, so for the people that think you get paid for both, that’s a myth.

The most effective way to get removed and a free day off is what Pedro mentioned above. However if you live in base and happy with a paid day off anywhere then bid flying that has days touch (but not overlapping) that creates a 7 day conflict

Pedro4President

5 years in and I have never seen a D.C. Code on reserve. I have always been paid for the conflict. Is it a slip by crew scheduling? I highly doubt it. I don't THINK 10 E 1 and 2 apply to reserve pilots. If someone wants to I suggest email the union with the question.

havick206

Obviously you can’t get DC on reserve days as it’s only overlapping flying that can get DC.

Your previous posts suggest hard line bidding not reserve.

Pedro4President

Ahhhh yeah I guess I should of clarified the reserve aspect. I was talking about reserve pilots exclusively.

highfarfast

Did not know you typically got paid, regardless of transition selection (for reserve), even if it might be an oversight, it’s probably worth the risk until someone catches on. That’s good intel. Very good.

As far as the rest, I agree. Mine always ended up working out to having a RSV day removed next to a day off but I knew I was lucky. I was scratching for every penny I could at that time and thought I’d lose pay if I selected “no” and HOPED the day off would at least be next month creating 12 days total days off instead of 11, theoretically creating 4 days I could pick up OT instead of 3. There was so little OT to be had though, I don’t think I ever picked up all 4 days. I only had 4 months on reserve though so it’s not like that’s a large pool of data.

havick206

There’s a bunch of people recently not getting paid for not selecting transition. Depends on who the auditor is and what slips through the keeper so to speak.

The auditors who are on their game will code it as a 7D as opposed to a TL and it won’t be paid.

highfarfast

Hmmm, not sure if on their game is right or if it’s just incompetence in another direction. As I mentioned in a previous post, I can see that ALL of my dropped days during my reserve days were marked 7D (at least on my HI10) and I always selected ‘yes’. TL never shows up until I start holding a line.

moon

Every dropped day 7D I've had has been paid on reserve. Just different schedulers different codes TL vs 7D