Reserve rules
03-17-2018, 02:39 PM
#172
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03-17-2018, 06:49 PM
#173
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Reserve rules
Not sure who is still there or not, but get to know who is cool and who is just covering their rear. There are certain ones who will help you out and just be positive with them. The ones that do help you really take note if you do help them out on the flip side as well.
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03-18-2018, 08:50 AM
#174
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The 14 hours RAPs here really bothered me at first. Then, I learned to look at RAP as available for duty instead of available for phone call.
Consider 1000-2359 RAP. If they call me at 2000 for a 2200 report and 2245 flight time, I would have to know for certain I could get that plane blocked in by 0000 (1 hour 15 minutes). Otherwise, Envoy is writing a report to the FAA explaining why I was extended past my legal FDP and what they are doing to never let it happen again (14 CFR 117.19).
Deadheading would still be an option, but I can only conceive perfect storm scenarios in which deadheading the RAP pilot makes sense.
Point being, know your 117 limits and asked to be released as appropriate.
I've got lot of arguments that 10-hour RAPs benefit both pilots and company. But as much as pilots would be able to work the system of 10-hour RAPs, so could the company. The devils you know for the devils you don't.
Consider 1000-2359 RAP. If they call me at 2000 for a 2200 report and 2245 flight time, I would have to know for certain I could get that plane blocked in by 0000 (1 hour 15 minutes). Otherwise, Envoy is writing a report to the FAA explaining why I was extended past my legal FDP and what they are doing to never let it happen again (14 CFR 117.19).
Deadheading would still be an option, but I can only conceive perfect storm scenarios in which deadheading the RAP pilot makes sense.
Point being, know your 117 limits and asked to be released as appropriate.
I've got lot of arguments that 10-hour RAPs benefit both pilots and company. But as much as pilots would be able to work the system of 10-hour RAPs, so could the company. The devils you know for the devils you don't.
03-18-2018, 08:53 AM
#175
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
The 14 hours RAPs here really bothered me at first. Then, I learned to look at RAP as available for duty instead of available for phone call.
Consider 1000-2359 RAP. If they call me at 2000 for a 2200 report and 2245 flight time, I would have to know for certain I could get that plane blocked in by 0000 (1 hour 15 minutes). Otherwise, Envoy is writing a report to the FAA explaining why I was extended past my legal FDP and what they are doing to never let it happen again (14 CFR 117.19).
Deadheading would still be an option, but I can only conceive perfect storm scenarios in which deadheading the RAP pilot makes sense.
Point being, know your 117 limits and asked to be released as appropriate.
I've got lot of arguments that 10-hour RAPs benefit both pilots and company. But as much as pilots would be able to work the system of 10-hour RAPs, so could the company. The devils you know for the devils you don't.
Consider 1000-2359 RAP. If they call me at 2000 for a 2200 report and 2245 flight time, I would have to know for certain I could get that plane blocked in by 0000 (1 hour 15 minutes). Otherwise, Envoy is writing a report to the FAA explaining why I was extended past my legal FDP and what they are doing to never let it happen again (14 CFR 117.19).
Deadheading would still be an option, but I can only conceive perfect storm scenarios in which deadheading the RAP pilot makes sense.
Point being, know your 117 limits and asked to be released as appropriate.
I've got lot of arguments that 10-hour RAPs benefit both pilots and company. But as much as pilots would be able to work the system of 10-hour RAPs, so could the company. The devils you know for the devils you don't.
03-18-2018, 09:28 AM
#176
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
The 14 hours RAPs here really bothered me at first. Then, I learned to look at RAP as available for duty instead of available for phone call.
Consider 1000-2359 RAP. If they call me at 2000 for a 2200 report and 2245 flight time, I would have to know for certain I could get that plane blocked in by 0000 (1 hour 15 minutes). Otherwise, Envoy is writing a report to the FAA explaining why I was extended past my legal FDP and what they are doing to never let it happen again (14 CFR 117.19).
Deadheading would still be an option, but I can only conceive perfect storm scenarios in which deadheading the RAP pilot makes sense.
Point being, know your 117 limits and asked to be released as appropriate.
I've got lot of arguments that 10-hour RAPs benefit both pilots and company. But as much as pilots would be able to work the system of 10-hour RAPs, so could the company. The devils you know for the devils you don't.
Consider 1000-2359 RAP. If they call me at 2000 for a 2200 report and 2245 flight time, I would have to know for certain I could get that plane blocked in by 0000 (1 hour 15 minutes). Otherwise, Envoy is writing a report to the FAA explaining why I was extended past my legal FDP and what they are doing to never let it happen again (14 CFR 117.19).
Deadheading would still be an option, but I can only conceive perfect storm scenarios in which deadheading the RAP pilot makes sense.
Point being, know your 117 limits and asked to be released as appropriate.
I've got lot of arguments that 10-hour RAPs benefit both pilots and company. But as much as pilots would be able to work the system of 10-hour RAPs, so could the company. The devils you know for the devils you don't.
03-18-2018, 01:56 PM
#178
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So i preferenced RAP1 and got RAP2. 2 guys below me in seniority got rap 1. Is there anything I can do about that? Called CS and she said give the next day assignment desk a call @ 5. Seems like BS but wanted to get yalls opinions first.
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03-18-2018, 02:12 PM
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Got a response from "next day assignment desk" that the 2 below me that got RAP1 were "preassigned" so that's why they got it and why it couldn't be changed.
That makes sense, but on the other hand, what the hell is the point of the seniority system? Should I just not proffer and get a default assigned RAP1?
That makes sense, but on the other hand, what the hell is the point of the seniority system? Should I just not proffer and get a default assigned RAP1?
03-18-2018, 02:44 PM
#180
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Got a response from "next day assignment desk" that the 2 below me that got RAP1 were "preassigned" so that's why they got it and why it couldn't be changed.
That makes sense, but on the other hand, what the hell is the point of the seniority system? Should I just not proffer and get a default assigned RAP1?
That makes sense, but on the other hand, what the hell is the point of the seniority system? Should I just not proffer and get a default assigned RAP1?
A different day I forgot to proffer because I was on a flight and got RAP2. They work what they know and make up the rest and do what they can get away with.
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