RTP Advice - Envoy or PSA?
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RTP Advice - Envoy or PSA?
Okay, so having interviewed with both, I now have offers from both. I am leaning towards PSA for no reason other than I think the commute will be better for me. I live midway between DC and Charlotte, so I could easily drive to either if necessary. And with family in DC, I wouldn't need a crash pad if I successfully bid there. None of Envoy's bases provide this level of convenience.
Reading through these forums and other online sources, it is hard to say which airline is the better option for a new hire. The programs look pretty similar, and upgrade times look about the same. Frankly, as a former military helicopter pilot, this is all very overwhelming.
My goal is to fly regional and then apply to other carriers or move to corporate as soon as I have the hours. So, I am not terribly concerned about flow to American.
I know these questions often degenerate quickly, but I am hoping someone can help me gain confidence in my decision. As Envoy pilots or followers, can you tell me why I might choose Envoy despite the commute issue? What as a newbie in this industry am I overlooking?
Thanks for the help.
Reading through these forums and other online sources, it is hard to say which airline is the better option for a new hire. The programs look pretty similar, and upgrade times look about the same. Frankly, as a former military helicopter pilot, this is all very overwhelming.
My goal is to fly regional and then apply to other carriers or move to corporate as soon as I have the hours. So, I am not terribly concerned about flow to American.
I know these questions often degenerate quickly, but I am hoping someone can help me gain confidence in my decision. As Envoy pilots or followers, can you tell me why I might choose Envoy despite the commute issue? What as a newbie in this industry am I overlooking?
Thanks for the help.
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Okay, so having interviewed with both, I now have offers from both. I am leaning towards PSA for no reason other than I think the commute will be better for me. I live midway between DC and Charlotte, so I could easily drive to either if necessary. And with family in DC, I wouldn't need a crash pad if I successfully bid there. None of Envoy's bases provide this level of convenience.
Reading through these forums and other online sources, it is hard to say which airline is the better option for a new hire. The programs look pretty similar, and upgrade times look about the same. Frankly, as a former military helicopter pilot, this is all very overwhelming.
My goal is to fly regional and then apply to other carriers or move to corporate as soon as I have the hours. So, I am not terribly concerned about flow to American.
I know these questions often degenerate quickly, but I am hoping someone can help me gain confidence in my decision. As Envoy pilots or followers, can you tell me why I might choose Envoy despite the commute issue? What as a newbie in this industry am I overlooking?
Thanks for the help.
Reading through these forums and other online sources, it is hard to say which airline is the better option for a new hire. The programs look pretty similar, and upgrade times look about the same. Frankly, as a former military helicopter pilot, this is all very overwhelming.
My goal is to fly regional and then apply to other carriers or move to corporate as soon as I have the hours. So, I am not terribly concerned about flow to American.
I know these questions often degenerate quickly, but I am hoping someone can help me gain confidence in my decision. As Envoy pilots or followers, can you tell me why I might choose Envoy despite the commute issue? What as a newbie in this industry am I overlooking?
Thanks for the help.
Not commuting is worth a lot.
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I'm an Envoy guy, but as previously stated, the commute can make or break this job. If you think you can drive to a PSA base, do it! Commuting can turn this job into a living hell compared to driving to work. I used to commute, and now I drive to work. It's a completely different job, night and day difference. I don't particularly like living in the base I'm in, but I hate commuting even more.
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Okay, so having interviewed with both, I now have offers from both. I am leaning towards PSA for no reason other than I think the commute will be better for me. I live midway between DC and Charlotte, so I could easily drive to either if necessary. And with family in DC, I wouldn't need a crash pad if I successfully bid there. None of Envoy's bases provide this level of convenience.
Reading through these forums and other online sources, it is hard to say which airline is the better option for a new hire. The programs look pretty similar, and upgrade times look about the same. Frankly, as a former military helicopter pilot, this is all very overwhelming.
My goal is to fly regional and then apply to other carriers or move to corporate as soon as I have the hours. So, I am not terribly concerned about flow to American.
I know these questions often degenerate quickly, but I am hoping someone can help me gain confidence in my decision. As Envoy pilots or followers, can you tell me why I might choose Envoy despite the commute issue? What as a newbie in this industry am I overlooking?
Thanks for the help.
Reading through these forums and other online sources, it is hard to say which airline is the better option for a new hire. The programs look pretty similar, and upgrade times look about the same. Frankly, as a former military helicopter pilot, this is all very overwhelming.
My goal is to fly regional and then apply to other carriers or move to corporate as soon as I have the hours. So, I am not terribly concerned about flow to American.
I know these questions often degenerate quickly, but I am hoping someone can help me gain confidence in my decision. As Envoy pilots or followers, can you tell me why I might choose Envoy despite the commute issue? What as a newbie in this industry am I overlooking?
Thanks for the help.
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Okay, so having interviewed with both, I now have offers from both. I am leaning towards PSA for no reason other than I think the commute will be better for me. I live midway between DC and Charlotte, so I could easily drive to either if necessary. And with family in DC, I wouldn't need a crash pad if I successfully bid there. None of Envoy's bases provide this level of convenience.
Reading through these forums and other online sources, it is hard to say which airline is the better option for a new hire. The programs look pretty similar, and upgrade times look about the same. Frankly, as a former military helicopter pilot, this is all very overwhelming.
My goal is to fly regional and then apply to other carriers or move to corporate as soon as I have the hours. So, I am not terribly concerned about flow to American.
I know these questions often degenerate quickly, but I am hoping someone can help me gain confidence in my decision. As Envoy pilots or followers, can you tell me why I might choose Envoy despite the commute issue? What as a newbie in this industry am I overlooking?
Thanks for the help.
Reading through these forums and other online sources, it is hard to say which airline is the better option for a new hire. The programs look pretty similar, and upgrade times look about the same. Frankly, as a former military helicopter pilot, this is all very overwhelming.
My goal is to fly regional and then apply to other carriers or move to corporate as soon as I have the hours. So, I am not terribly concerned about flow to American.
I know these questions often degenerate quickly, but I am hoping someone can help me gain confidence in my decision. As Envoy pilots or followers, can you tell me why I might choose Envoy despite the commute issue? What as a newbie in this industry am I overlooking?
Thanks for the help.
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Thanks, everyone. It is a 2-3 hour drive to PSA's DC base, but it is doable. And again, I have family in DC who has offered to let me crash with them whenever I need.
It's reassuring to hear others agree that PSA may be the better option for me, especially coming from an Envoy pilot.
It's reassuring to hear others agree that PSA may be the better option for me, especially coming from an Envoy pilot.
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Thanks, everyone. It is a 2-3 hour drive to PSA's DC base, but it is doable. And again, I have family in DC who has offered to let me crash with them whenever I need.
It's reassuring to hear others agree that PSA may be the better option for me, especially coming from an Envoy pilot.
It's reassuring to hear others agree that PSA may be the better option for me, especially coming from an Envoy pilot.
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Seriously man, if you can take one that doesn't involve a commute, take it. The difference in the end is negligible on all other matters but the commute is such a quality of life issue that it rates near the top of my list. I work at Envoy and have very few issues with them, so take that for whats its worth. In addition, I commute, it sucks. The stress, worry and lost time sucks the life out of you, seriously, not kidding. I love my job but the commute part makes me not even want to do it anymore sometimes, lol.
PSA all the way in my opinion.
PSA all the way in my opinion.
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I sincerely appreciate the candid responses from those of you commuting. For those that have said it sucks, can I ask how far your commute is? I plan to fly to DC from my local airport when my schedule allows me as my drive will be hours. And there is always the chance I won't get DC as my base, in which case, I am stuck commuting like you guys.
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