Endeavor and Republic?
12-29-2015, 09:42 AM
#21
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If you go to RAH, let me know. It's a great company as far as I can tell and lots of bases to choose from. Pick the one that gives you the easiest/best commute/QOL. RAH has newer equipment and seems to be a great company so far. Endeavor is a great company but the CL65 is older. No matter how you look at it, regionals are regionals and you have to choose the one that is most "profitable" for you.
12-29-2015, 10:22 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Position: CA
Posts: 170
In reality... I think Endeavor or SkyWest are the best choice. I looked at both when I was interviewing and ended up coming to Endeavor. I don't regret it at all. Great people and a lot of movement and wages that pilots deserve.
12-29-2015, 10:45 AM
#23
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Nobody on here seems to speak about anything at endeavor besides the 20k bonus. The endeavor thread is basically new hires with dollar signs in their eyes, or the 7-8 year fo's telling you how it really is. On the flip side, whenever republic is spoken about you get the regular "stay away" or "good luck". You are hard pressed to find any reliable info on here. Like said before, educate yourself as much as possible and make a decision based on that. Don't base your future on some guy on a website who told you not to go somewhere for whatever reason.
12-29-2015, 11:16 AM
#24
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Nobody on here seems to speak about anything at endeavor besides the 20k bonus. The endeavor thread is basically new hires with dollar signs in their eyes, or the 7-8 year fo's telling you how it really is. On the flip side, whenever republic is spoken about you get the regular "stay away" or "good luck". You are hard pressed to find any reliable info on here. Like said before, educate yourself as much as possible and make a decision based on that. Don't base your future on some guy on a website who told you not to go somewhere for whatever reason.
Some of the other things going on at Endeavor. (Without getting specific on numbers because I don't have them right in front of me)
Growing 200 fleet
Possibility of growing 900 fleet or even added 700s depending on who you talk to. (This is admittedly speculation at this point, but we should learn one way or another I'd assume in the coming month)
very short reserve times on 200 and dropping significantly now on the 900
Attempting to hire 60 a month through 2016. (Personally I doubt they'll get this without coming to the table and upping that sign on bonus to 10K and possibly even more)
Dropping upgrade times. (If able to get that 60 a month were looking at close to 2 years maybe less depending on movement off the top of the list.)
We've had some seriously good operating numbers this year and we've been able to staff our own flying and that of carriers who couldn't (republic among others) ergo growth.
We have Delta backing us financially on all fronts to make sure this stays at the top of desirable regionals to start your career. This means whenever somebody else comes to the table worth something to attract pilots you can assume safely endeavor is right benign them if not way ahead. (See retention and now he increased pay due to RAH contract)
Overall Endeavor is a great place to be right now if you want to be on the front end of all the good things happening at this portion of the industry. Not to mention your guaranteed shot at mainline down the road.
I'm sure there's some stuff I've left out but I feel like that's a pretty good summary.
I know a few guys at RAH and they're happy eight this new contract and it seems like they've finally got some good working rules too. I just don't know the specifics like info with my own company. Best of luck finding the information you need to make your choice.
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12-29-2015, 11:38 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Position: CA
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[QUOTE=aperfcrcle;2036421]Nobody on here seems to speak about anything at endeavor besides the 20k bonus. The endeavor thread is basically new hires with dollar signs in their eyes, or the 7-8 year fo's telling you how it really is. On the flip side, whenever republic is spoken about you get the regular "stay away" or "good luck". You are hard pressed to find any reliable info on here. Like said before, educate yourself as much as possible and make a decision based on that. Don't base your future on some guy on a website who told you not to go somewhere for whatever reason.[/QUOTE]
Nobody? that's funny. I personally know 2 people that were at Republic for 2 years and just made the switch to Endeavor. Lets not talk about Delta suing RAH. "Educate yourself" its the smart thing to do.
Nobody? that's funny. I personally know 2 people that were at Republic for 2 years and just made the switch to Endeavor. Lets not talk about Delta suing RAH. "Educate yourself" its the smart thing to do.
12-29-2015, 12:00 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Piloto
Posts: 323
Some of the other things going on at Endeavor. (Without getting specific on numbers because I don't have them right in front of me)
Growing 200 fleet
Possibility of growing 900 fleet or even added 700s depending on who you talk to. (This is admittedly speculation at this point, but we should learn one way or another I'd assume in the coming month)
very short reserve times on 200 and dropping significantly now on the 900
Attempting to hire 60 a month through 2016. (Personally I doubt they'll get this without coming to the table and upping that sign on bonus to 10K and possibly even more)
Dropping upgrade times. (If able to get that 60 a month were looking at close to 2 years maybe less depending on movement off the top of the list.)
We've had some seriously good operating numbers this year and we've been able to staff our own flying and that of carriers who couldn't (republic among others) ergo growth.
We have Delta backing us financially on all fronts to make sure this stays at the top of desirable regionals to start your career. This means whenever somebody else comes to the table worth something to attract pilots you can assume safely endeavor is right benign them if not way ahead. (See retention and now he increased pay due to RAH contract)
Overall Endeavor is a great place to be right now if you want to be on the front end of all the good things happening at this portion of the industry. Not to mention your guaranteed shot at mainline down the road.
I'm sure there's some stuff I've left out but I feel like that's a pretty good summary.
I know a few guys at RAH and they're happy eight this new contract and it seems like they've finally got some good working rules too. I just don't know the specifics like info with my own company. Best of luck finding the information you need to make your choice.
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Growing 200 fleet
Possibility of growing 900 fleet or even added 700s depending on who you talk to. (This is admittedly speculation at this point, but we should learn one way or another I'd assume in the coming month)
very short reserve times on 200 and dropping significantly now on the 900
Attempting to hire 60 a month through 2016. (Personally I doubt they'll get this without coming to the table and upping that sign on bonus to 10K and possibly even more)
Dropping upgrade times. (If able to get that 60 a month were looking at close to 2 years maybe less depending on movement off the top of the list.)
We've had some seriously good operating numbers this year and we've been able to staff our own flying and that of carriers who couldn't (republic among others) ergo growth.
We have Delta backing us financially on all fronts to make sure this stays at the top of desirable regionals to start your career. This means whenever somebody else comes to the table worth something to attract pilots you can assume safely endeavor is right benign them if not way ahead. (See retention and now he increased pay due to RAH contract)
Overall Endeavor is a great place to be right now if you want to be on the front end of all the good things happening at this portion of the industry. Not to mention your guaranteed shot at mainline down the road.
I'm sure there's some stuff I've left out but I feel like that's a pretty good summary.
I know a few guys at RAH and they're happy eight this new contract and it seems like they've finally got some good working rules too. I just don't know the specifics like info with my own company. Best of luck finding the information you need to make your choice.
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Between Endeavor and Republic all I hear from the E9 side who's desperately trying to recruit 60/month is that E9 will be amazing and RAH is going to be horrible and bankrupt. But for the last 5 years, from seeing the life guys had at E9, it's was pretty bad as far as QOL.
Right now all are desperate and even if it all sounds honky dory at E9 they're desperate enough to keep getting money from Delta to tease new recruits.
12-29-2015, 12:00 PM
#27
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Piloto
Posts: 323
Nobody on here seems to speak about anything at endeavor besides the 20k bonus. The endeavor thread is basically new hires with dollar signs in their eyes, or the 7-8 year fo's telling you how it really is. On the flip side, whenever republic is spoken about you get the regular "stay away" or "good luck". You are hard pressed to find any reliable info on here. Like said before, educate yourself as much as possible and make a decision based on that. Don't base your future on some guy on a website who told you not to go somewhere for whatever reason.
12-29-2015, 12:08 PM
#28
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what is "short reserve", we've seen 1 guy say he's been on reserve for 6 months, others have passed a year. So again lots of talks on how it is/will be great but concretely apart from $$, not much in the QOL.
Between Endeavor and Republic all I hear from the E9 side who's desperately trying to recruit 60/month is that E9 will be amazing and RAH is going to be horrible and bankrupt. But for the last 5 years, from seeing the life guys had at E9, it's was pretty bad as far as QOL.
Right now all are desperate and even if it all sounds honky dory at E9 they're desperate enough to keep getting money from Delta to tease new recruits.
Between Endeavor and Republic all I hear from the E9 side who's desperately trying to recruit 60/month is that E9 will be amazing and RAH is going to be horrible and bankrupt. But for the last 5 years, from seeing the life guys had at E9, it's was pretty bad as far as QOL.
Right now all are desperate and even if it all sounds honky dory at E9 they're desperate enough to keep getting money from Delta to tease new recruits.
12-29-2015, 12:27 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 318
Great info, thanks, but it raises a question. If going to RAH ia a gamble, how much of a gamble is it for a new hire? If they go bust it will likely be within a year or two, and if your"re a jr hire is it really that big a deal to bail and go elsewhere and start over? This is taking in to account having to start seniority all over again at a new place. Gotta figure it would really suck if you've been there a while.
For me it's all about QOL. I live in NY, have a family with young children, and want to live in base from the get-go. So RAH is the better choice for me. You will most likely get a NY base there if you ask for it. If not there's always someone willing to swap out. As for bonuses, a few dollars either way isn't as important as being home more. All depends on your needs.
Good luck to the OP.
For me it's all about QOL. I live in NY, have a family with young children, and want to live in base from the get-go. So RAH is the better choice for me. You will most likely get a NY base there if you ask for it. If not there's always someone willing to swap out. As for bonuses, a few dollars either way isn't as important as being home more. All depends on your needs.
Good luck to the OP.
I too live in NY and wanted the NY base. I have it at Endeavor, but it does seem our hiring will be more focused on the CRJ-200 in the future to which we do not have a 200 base in NYC anymore. So if NYC basing is your most important thing to have for sure right off the bat then RAH might be a better choice for you. As others have said, you won't know if the decision you made was the right one until years after you made it with how dynamic the industry is.
12-29-2015, 06:02 PM
#30
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what is "short reserve", we've seen 1 guy say he's been on reserve for 6 months, others have passed a year. So again lots of talks on how it is/will be great but concretely apart from $$, not much in the QOL.
Between Endeavor and Republic all I hear from the E9 side who's desperately trying to recruit 60/month is that E9 will be amazing and RAH is going to be horrible and bankrupt. But for the last 5 years, from seeing the life guys had at E9, it's was pretty bad as far as QOL.
Right now all are desperate and even if it all sounds honky dory at E9 they're desperate enough to keep getting money from Delta to tease new recruits.
Between Endeavor and Republic all I hear from the E9 side who's desperately trying to recruit 60/month is that E9 will be amazing and RAH is going to be horrible and bankrupt. But for the last 5 years, from seeing the life guys had at E9, it's was pretty bad as far as QOL.
Right now all are desperate and even if it all sounds honky dory at E9 they're desperate enough to keep getting money from Delta to tease new recruits.
I've done nothing special to be where I'm at. To say that qol is not good here is just not true, this is good as it gets for regional Fo.
