Kforekyle

This place seems always to be two steps forward and three steps back! A very fustrating company to work for.

DMEarc

Here's a shocker, XJ pilot advocating DOH.

Was DOH fair? Because looking at the data from 2011, looks like it would have been an absolute windfall for XJ. That is unfortunately not the intent of the ALPA Merger and Fragmentation Policy. It is what it is man, time to move on.

Avroman

ALPA is an impotent joke that has proven itself a useless bloated political turd in need of flushing. ALPA can not possibly represent the negotiating interests of regional and mainline pilots at the same time as they are in direct conflict. I will say that the legal and aeromedical assistance are worthwhile for all, but when it comes to negotiations and merger policy, I'd prefer to keep my 2% and take my chances.

Onedayatatimee

"Successful DGI pilots under this program will move to Delta based on Delta’s procedures in place at the time of the interview and will mirror the process for OTS candidates as closely as possible."

Clear as mud Lol! Today it would be in the pool for a few weeks. A few years from now who knows what the procedure will be. Mirror as closely as possible is lawyer language for if we have staffing problems at the time we will decide when you go to Delta.

bonesbrigade

Delta is so opposed to a "flow" that they would not even disseminate to their pilots that we are in fact owned by DAL... our union wanted that to happen so that when we met their pilots out in the wild they would at least be partial to us I guess, but DAL and DALPA stonewalled the idea.

And from everything I've heard from both DAL captains and mgmt, DAL is having a difficult time with many of the COmpass flows. Everything from attitude to entitlement to poor skills.

I think it will be a long time, if ever, that we receive flow rights. If we do it will have a cavaet that after 1 year we are "evaluated" at which point they wash out the people they didn't want.

From my point of view, since we make a good amount of money for DAL and are a rathole for some of their profits, it would be an amazing recruiting tool to offer us flow because that many more people would come to 9E. But what do I know, I'm just a bug smasher.

bonesbrigade

If DAL wants those planes, DAL will buy those planes, regardless of the TA. If they want to hang the carrot out there like that ad then blame it on devil unionized labor, well I'm not really surprised. It really has nothing to do with the TA dictating the purchase of the ac, its just a great bargaining tool.

American airlines did the same thing a few years ago. "Jee we REALLY would love to get you guys some 787s to fly, but we can't do it unless you agree to this last best offer." Pilots said cool, have fun with that.

jethikoki

I think a better way to say this is that DAL,DALPA and ALPA National is so opposed to a flow that they have NO integrity of honoring a contract. Just think of the message that sends to an airline management. Contracts do not matter unless you are working at mainline. Regardless of your contract management will never need worry about if it will be enforced or adhered to.

Yumyum

Well that's just too fuking bad..DOH is the only right decision. Please don't ever mention ALPA ever...useless idiots.

AlaskaBound

That's right, blame your incompetent ALPA leadership's failed attempt to get a flow on alleged "poor Compass skills and attitude".....***?
Can you prove your claim? Delta has ZERO problem with failing a Compass pilot while going through initial or IOE. Out of the hundred of Compass flows only a small handful have been unsuccessful. Before you throw Compass under the bus for your failed attempts to get what you want, look at your own ALPA leadership and join the real world. Delta hates the flow idea and your leadership couldn't change their minds. Seriously get a grip.

AlaskaBound

BTW I see more entitlement from 9E guys on this board who think they deserve a flow than I have ever seen at Compass.