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Old 06-15-2015, 11:41 AM
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Can anyone who is currently working at Endeavor help with a few questions? Feel free to add any other information you feel might help someone to decide upon Endeavor or another airline.

General feeling of pilots, are they treated well?
What is the average line like for a line holder?
Days on per month?
Average line - 2 day, 1 day, 3 day, 4 day???

Days off per month?
Legs per day?
Average Duty hour per day?
What is the junior base?
Any information on a flow through for new hires?
Any new bases on the horizon?
Growth plans?
Are pilots getting paid the additional money promised by management?
When is a new contract coming?
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Can anyone who is currently working at Endeavor help with a few questions? Feel free to add any other information you feel might help someone to decide upon Endeavor or another airline.

General feeling of pilots, are they treated well?
I cant speak for everyone but I think things have improved ten fold over Pinnacle and the bankruptcy era.
What is the average line like for a line holder?
It really depends on aircraft and seniority.
Days on per month? Average days off for junior lineholder is 11-13 days off
Average line - 2 day, 1 day, 3 day, 4 day??? Mainly 4 day trips with some 1-3 day trips.

Days off per month? See above
Legs per day? depends on aircraft. Usually 3-5.
Average Duty hour per day? Varies greatly
What is the junior base? NYC bases have gone historically junior.
Any information on a flow through for new hires? No flow through but a guaranteed interview may be on the horizon
Any new bases on the horizon? Not currently
Growth plans? We are told we will have pretty much as many 200's return from the desert as we can staff.
Are pilots getting paid the additional money promised by management? Yes we have.
When is a new contract coming? Probably not before 2020
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Originally Posted by thor55
Can anyone who is currently working at Endeavor help with a few questions? Feel free to add any other information you feel might help someone to decide upon Endeavor or another airline.

General feeling of pilots, are they treated well?
The general feeling of all Regional pilots is something like this:

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The general feeling of all Regional pilots is something like this:

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Gee and yet you and others claim every chance you get that "it's a good time to be an Envoy pilot" ?

That makes no sense unless you like............
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:35 PM
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If there is anything you need more specific let me know.
pretty much nailed it...... good overall morale they do have pilots working here so they will complain about anything and everything. highest paid with bonus factored in. Upgrade time dropping every day! NYC seems to be junior on the 900 side of things and MSP for the 200 overall I don't see many other airlines much better! we have the highest priority over any other delta carrier so that's a plus!
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Do they make you sign a training contract? How quick is upgrade nowadays? Are new-hires getting a line relatively quickly?
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Old 06-16-2015, 07:44 PM
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Do they make you sign a training contract? How quick is upgrade nowadays? Are new-hires getting a line relatively quickly?
No training contract, paying a $20,000/year bonus (pro rated for newhires) Upgrade is, and will be, a debacle thanks to the "Bloch award" for about one more year, then it's strictly seniority list (that is also a Bloch debacle, but we are stuck with it) as for a new hire upgrading, we've got about 200 waiting on class dates at Delta, and they seem to be grabbing a lot more of our FO's than they wanted of our captains for some reason. That's great for FO's with a job, but means the captain side is going to become ever more stagnant because there are many that simply are riding this place til retirement, several more that Delta shot down and are now joining that group, and several more than now have to wait around for United or American (and American isn't taking much outside the military and its own regionals) The good news is many of the current FO's being told no by Delta will soon upgrade, the unknown is for the new hires... will they get interviews, will Delta wake up and start acting like American with its regionals. or will the top get choked with "undesirables" and captain seats become clogged. Who knows
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Originally Posted by WIPilot
If there is anything you need more specific let me know.

Be careful.... any 50's coming out of the desert will be replacements at best.

100 was the count I have heard for a while, and that intention is confirmed by the DL TA.
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Be careful.... any 50's coming out of the desert will be replacements at best.

100 was the count I have heard for a while, and that intention is confirmed by the DL TA.

At current attrition and hiring more than likely that is correct. But it is hard to put money on anything lately.
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ASA/skywest's crj 200 contracts expire this year. My guess is planes come out of the desert for 9E to replace that flying. I can't imagine Delta entering into another long term crj 200 contract with those companies.
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