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Old 10-14-2015, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by higney85
You could hold a line in NYC, but you don't want to commute. That's something called "Life". You can blame Bloch, luck, or your own despair. Living IN BASE on reserve is far better, I get it (believe me, I'm a MEM commuter- "live in base, it's awesome...OK... well the base is closed, fun commute begins), but all you do is complain. Pick your poison. Be on reserve in base, or commute to a line. Nobody forces you to show up to work. That's the last option. You can blame everyone, but in 12 years you should have already had numerous opportunities to leave this place. If not via SSP, hiring happened for a good majority of your time here across the industry.

Yes, blunt, but all you do is complain and blame everyone else. Others seem to be complaining, but don't even work here anymore. There are plenty of things to "fix", just as every company (inclusive of majors) has on the agenda, and many of those pieces (Flica, commuter hotels, parking stipend, etc) are being negotiated this week.

"Woe is me" is a broken record and a blatant misrepresentation of the situation at this point in the game. A "bad situation was late 2011-mid 2014". Things have changed. Movement is happening, QOL is improving, and money is now being put into your pocket just for showing up to work. Move on.
Great post!!!! Spot on.
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Old 10-14-2015, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Ken, are you actually drunk? Never seen you post like this
No, I was not, but the frustration remains toward those who have been through a merger, BK, shrinking fleet (downward movement), all bad things... And now we are upgrading, with enhanced QOL and pay. Morale overall is night and day from 18 months ago to the positive, but some feel that all we can do is complain. The same ones who complain about paying taxes on a $20,000 bonus just to stay here. It's frustrating and I am sick and tired of the constant complaining.
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Old 10-14-2015, 06:49 AM
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People would complain if we received a $50k per month bonus but you had to go to tower C to pick it up. In cash. Small bills.
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Originally Posted by higney85
You could hold a line in NYC, but you don't want to commute. That's something called "Life". You can blame Bloch, luck, or your own despair. Living IN BASE on reserve is far better, I get it (believe me, I'm a MEM commuter- "live in base, it's awesome...OK... well the base is closed, fun commute begins), but all you do is complain. Pick your poison. Be on reserve in base, or commute to a line. Nobody forces you to show up to work. That's the last option. You can blame everyone, but in 12 years you should have already had numerous opportunities to leave this place. If not via SSP, hiring happened for a good majority of your time here across the industry.

Yes, blunt, but all you do is complain and blame everyone else. Others seem to be complaining, but don't even work here anymore. There are plenty of things to "fix", just as every company (inclusive of majors) has on the agenda, and many of those pieces (Flica, commuter hotels, parking stipend, etc) are being negotiated this week.

"Woe is me" is a broken record and a blatant misrepresentation of the situation at this point in the game. A "bad situation was late 2011-mid 2014". Things have changed. Movement is happening, QOL is improving, and money is now being put into your pocket just for showing up to work. Move on.
What the hell are you talking about? Hold a line in NY? I went to NY the moment the base opened buddy. I've been a commuter most of my life and this ISN't my first base closure. You have absolutely no clue what you talking about. Were you one of the few gifted seniority numbers?? Maybe that's why you are so jolly jolly....go bid reserve and sit ready for a couple months then come talk to me. You obviously have no clue because you think you can hold a line in NY after 11 or 12 years. Proves you don't know Sh!t
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:10 AM
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11 years is a line in NYC??? Not according to what I looked at. I would have more junior to me in DTW than JFK, and be about the same as DTW in LGA.... Even MSP would be better than JFK. Looking at the current bid pack, JFK is actually the most senior base (seniority number wise, not date of hire) Now that may not be taking into account the latest vacancy, but it shows how things have been this summer. Perhaps you are thinking of someone from Colgan with 11 years?
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by higney85
No, I was not, but the frustration remains toward those who have been through a merger, BK, shrinking fleet (downward movement), all bad things... And now we are upgrading, with enhanced QOL and pay. Morale overall is night and day from 18 months ago to the positive, but some feel that all we can do is complain. The same ones who complain about paying taxes on a $20,000 bonus just to stay here. It's frustrating and I am sick and tired of the constant complaining.
QOL HASN'T improved for me, and many others, so please save us the positive talk. The facts are the facts. We got a bonus.....great!!! that's just money they took from us in the beginning.... thanks for giving it back in installments. You see, just because YOUR QOL has improved, doesn't mean others have.
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Originally Posted by Yumyum
What the hell are you talking about? Hold a line in NY? I went to NY the moment the base opened buddy. I've been a commuter most of my life and this ISN't my first base closure. You have absolutely no clue what you talking about. Were you one of the few gifted seniority numbers?? Maybe that's why you are so jolly jolly....go bid reserve and sit ready for a couple months then come talk to me. You obviously have no clue because you think you can hold a line in NY after 11 or 12 years. Proves you don't know Sh!t
Look up his seniority and longevity numbers and see if he won the lottery with it. I'll race you, see who finds it first. . Considering he was a displaced 9e CA I'm guessing uncle Bloch didn't give him a nice Christmas present.
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Look up his seniority and longevity numbers and see if he won the lottery with it. I'll race you, see who finds it first. . Considering he was a displaced 9e CA I'm guessing uncle Bloch didn't give him a nice Christmas present.
Ken ended up on the wrong side of that 500 pilot split given to the Pinnacle guys hired in 2006. I'm still waiting for the explanation on how it ever made sense to cut a single class in half and put over 500 people from the other companies in between classmates. Heck of a way to punish Pinnacle for their idiot of a merger negotiator.
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:57 AM
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Heck what did the 10-11 year XJ guys do that got shafted arguably even worse?
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Ken ended up on the wrong side of that 500 pilot split given to the Pinnacle guys hired in 2006. I'm still waiting for the explanation on how it ever made sense to cut a single class in half and put over 500 people from the other companies in between classmates. Heck of a way to punish Pinnacle for their idiot of a merger negotiator.
Yup. quite the lotto number I got... Back as a CA on the -200 as an 06 hire.

Anyone hired between 2003 and 2005 can easily hold CA. With the latest 15-05 all will be able to hold lines (03-05) DOH once they hit the line. Sure, there are some XJ guys who were also hosed in the DOH category vs. seniority, but all of them are getting propped up on the -900 with the Bloch award. Lots of junior pre-merger XJ guys are taking the bottom reserve ranks. The junior CA's on the -900 are late 07 hires.
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