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stillcantfly 01-04-2017 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2274805)
Yea 60% blows

your numbers are so far off!;)

HighFlight 01-04-2017 07:38 PM

Isn't it more like 44% selected from EDV to DL via the SSP?

Gearswinger 01-04-2017 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Yumyum (Post 2274784)
Or how to run a effing airline! Folks if Delta is your goal, don't apply here! Small percentage
!

BS. You do not know what you are talking about. I've worked for airlines that weren't run well. This is not one of them. This industry has a lot of variables that are constantly changing, and our company deals with that very well.

As for small percentage going to Delta, again, you are talking out of your A$$. 60% success rate. How many people from the original 3 were going to Delta prior to the SSP? How many of those who went in and interviewed had their phones ringing with calls from Delta HR prior to the SSP, or even after for those who also applied off the street? How about UAL or AA? VERY few people were (are) being called off the street. Suddenly we all had the opportunity to go in and interview without the normal vetting process that Delta uses. 60% of those who gave it a shot got a job, including a lot who didn't have a four year degree like everyone who is coming in off the street to a Delta interview. That's pretty damn great and proves that the people who spout crap like you just did are just ****ed because they didn't get it.

Look, I get it. It sucks to be told no. I'm not going to Delta either. It doesn't mean that everyone else in the world is to blame. They wouldn't have been calling me off the streets. I'm not there because of me, and all my friends who are moving on to Delta are proof of that.

For everyone outside the company:

If you are considering coming to 9E, know that you better be OK with going to NY. Right now that's where people are headed, may as well assume that if you live in MSP you'll never get it and be pleasantly surprised if it ever happens. Most people here are great to fly with. Management and training want you to succeed and will support you in doing so. You will be paid well to fly well maintained aircraft and stay in (for the most part) good hotels. You won't be asked to do anything unsafe, and will be given the tools to do your job well. Upgrade should be fairly quick as well as long as things continue to move as they have been. Give it a couple years and you'll get a guaranteed interview at Delta, while you wait you can have applications in at all the majors (including Delta) so maybe you'll get to move on sooner.

I'm proud to be an Endeavor pilot. I like my company. They treat me well, pay me well, and I've flown in both seats with some of the best pilots I could hope to meet. Our new hires are sharp, most are really looking for ways to improve and are bringing great experience from other carriers with them.

I'm sure that my outlook would be different if I lived in MSP or DTW, but fortunately I don't and am close to NY. That makes life much easier for me since I can be a line holder as a CA in NY where I would be on reserve as a CA in the other bases or line holder as an FO. The lesson to be learned from that is the common advice to go someplace you can drive to work or have an easy commute from is good advice.

AnotherWriter 01-04-2017 08:14 PM

9E Memo 16-34: "...1,078 pilots have interviewed at Delta and 666 of these pilots received a CJO resulting in a 61.8% success rate."

Can we please move on from this now?

AnotherWriter 01-04-2017 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Gearswinger (Post 2274853)
For everyone outside the company:

If you are considering coming to 9E, know that you better be OK with going to NY. Right now that's where people are headed, may as well assume that if you live in MSP you'll never get it and be pleasantly surprised if it ever happens. Most people here are great to fly with. Management and training want you to succeed and will support you in doing so. You will be paid well to fly well maintained aircraft and stay in (for the most part) good hotels. You won't be asked to do anything unsafe, and will be given the tools to do your job well. Upgrade should be fairly quick as well as long as things continue to move as they have been. Give it a couple years and you'll get a guaranteed interview at Delta, while you wait you can have applications in at all the majors (including Delta) so maybe you'll get to move on sooner.

I'm proud to be an Endeavor pilot. I like my company. They treat me well, pay me well, and I've flown in both seats with some of the best pilots I could hope to meet. Our new hires are sharp, most are really looking for ways to improve and are bringing great experience from other carriers with them.

I'm sure that my outlook would be different if I lived in MSP or DTW, but fortunately I don't and am close to NY. That makes life much easier for me since I can be a line holder as a CA in NY where I would be on reserve as a CA in the other bases or line holder as an FO. The lesson to be learned from that is the common advice to go someplace you can drive to work or have an easy commute from is good advice.

Spot on.

Although my life situation is a lot different than most at this point, even living in MSP, based in NYC, I am not having a bad time here.

JesuitValen 01-05-2017 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by AnotherWriter (Post 2274855)
9E Memo 16-34: "...1,078 pilots have interviewed at Delta and 666 of these pilots received a CJO resulting in a 61.8% success rate."

Can we please move on from this now?

It'sinteresting how they phrase that. Some of the CJOs went to United because they offered the class date first.

1078 out of 1400 pilots left on property at the time ssp was offered to fos?

VoiceOfReason 01-05-2017 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by Gearswinger (Post 2274853)
For everyone outside the company:

If you are considering coming to 9E, know that you better be OK with going to NY. Right now that's where people are headed, may as well assume that if you live in MSP you'll never get it and be pleasantly surprised if it ever happens. Most people here are great to fly with. Management and training want you to succeed and will support you in doing so. You will be paid well to fly well maintained aircraft and stay in (for the most part) good hotels. You won't be asked to do anything unsafe, and will be given the tools to do your job well. Upgrade should be fairly quick as well as long as things continue to move as they have been. Give it a couple years and you'll get a guaranteed interview at Delta, while you wait you can have applications in at all the majors (including Delta) so maybe you'll get to move on sooner.

I'm proud to be an Endeavor pilot. I like my company. They treat me well, pay me well, and I've flown in both seats with some of the best pilots I could hope to meet. Our new hires are sharp, most are really looking for ways to improve and are bringing great experience from other carriers with them.

I'm sure that my outlook would be different if I lived in MSP or DTW, but fortunately I don't and am close to NY. That makes life much easier for me since I can be a line holder as a CA in NY where I would be on reserve as a CA in the other bases or line holder as an FO. The lesson to be learned from that is the common advice to go someplace you can drive to work or have an easy commute from is good advice.

Thank you for sharing this. Exactly what I tell my fellow aviation buddies who question my decision to move to 9E. Again, had an offer from one of the AAWO that would have secured my spot in line with AA...but I welcome the challenge the DGI will present.

That said, each day I'm a part of this team, I feel more and more invested in what we're trying to accomplish. My wife and were just talking and even if the DGI doesn't work out for me in about 3 years, the way it stands right now, I'm good with that. This is an excellent operation.

AnotherWriter 01-05-2017 07:41 AM

Anyone feel like we are sitting fat on pilots at the moment? TDY-ing out 20 JFK9 FOs to LGA and DTW. Looking at January PBS awards, no one is holding a 100 credit hour MLR line anymore. There is almost no open time left in DTW, and minimal in JFK (which is advertised as our largest 900 base now?).

This is all on the 900 side. And we aren't forecast to get any more of those anytime soon. Can't see what 200 open time and reserve staffing looks like, but I imagine its even more fat since there are 14 more of those coming in the immediate future.

Does someone know something the rest of us don't?

I don't like how we are indirectly responsible for gutting some other regionals, like XJT, but it kind of feels like we are being staffed for the eventual regional consolidation that we've been hearing about for the last couple years.

Gearswinger 01-05-2017 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by AnotherWriter (Post 2275052)
Anyone feel like we are sitting fat on pilots at the moment? TDY-ing out 20 JFK9 FOs to LGA and DTW. Looking at January PBS awards, no one is holding a 100 credit hour MLR line anymore. There is almost no open time left in DTW, and minimal in JFK (which is advertised as our largest 900 base now?).

This is all on the 900 side. And we aren't forecast to get any more of those anytime soon. Can't see what 200 open time and reserve staffing looks like, but I imagine its even more fat since there are 14 more of those coming in the immediate future.

Does someone know something the rest of us don't?

I don't like how we are indirectly responsible for gutting some other regionals, like XJT, but it kind of feels like we are being staffed for the eventual regional consolidation that we've been hearing about for the last couple years.

This time of year flying goes down, it's nothing unusual. There are also more planes on the way and they are anticipating that with our staffing.

HighFlight 01-05-2017 08:34 AM

In addition to what GearSwinger said, bear in mind that OT, while it is nice for our paychecks, should be something the company tries to avoid from a business standpoint.


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