Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
01-03-2017, 07:19 AM
#9702
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I'd say once the 170s come on property, we can start talking about a SNA/LAX base. Until then, to quote the great Tupac, our pilots be like:
"California dreaming / Soon as I stepped on the scene, I'm hearing hoochies screaming / Let me serenade the streets of L.A...
From Oakland to Sacktown
The Bay Area and back down
Cali is where they put they mack down
Give me love!"
RIP Tupac
01-03-2017, 07:48 AM
#9703
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Yeah, dont read too much into my comment. I'm not in the know, nor have I looked at Deltanet on that matter yet. There are just certain things *I've observed* that point to a southeast base coming and 200s in NYC at least shrinking.
01-03-2017, 07:59 AM
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R.G. and R.E. as well as others have said multiple times that they want New York to be all dual class airplanes. The also prefer one's with a first class lav. So even the 700 isn't desired for that market. Along with that it has been mentioned that the 200's would be phased out in 2017. I think Delta's hand was forced with the Republic bankruptcy in that they were shedding all the E145s. The 200's were brought in to keep the feed going until they start receiving their airframes
01-03-2017, 08:19 AM
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Well I'm not sure if I'd make such a bold statement? Word on the street is that Delta isn't very happy with Compass right now. Their performance metrics are in the toilet. Compass blames it on MX issues caused from their aging aircraft and the LA market in general as being a tough market to attain good performance metrics. I don't know whether or not their performance metrics are bad enough to break their contract or not? But sooner or later that contract will need to be renegotiated. If things don't change I don't think they will extend it. But what do I know, I didn't think Delta would extend the GoJet flying either. I'm not saying Endeavor would get any of the Compass 175's either. In fact Delta seems very happy with SkyWest's west coast operations.
01-03-2017, 08:21 AM
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R.G. and R.E. as well as others have said multiple times that they want New York to be all dual class airplanes. The also prefer one's with a first class lav. So even the 700 isn't desired for that market. Along with that it has been mentioned that the 200's would be phased out in 2017. I think Delta's hand was forced with the Republic bankruptcy in that they were shedding all the E145s. The 200's were brought in to keep the feed going until they start receiving their airframes
01-03-2017, 08:58 AM
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Well I'm not sure if I'd make such a bold statement? Word on the street is that Delta isn't very happy with Compass right now. Their performance metrics are in the toilet. Compass blames it on MX issues caused from their aging aircraft and the LA market in general as being a tough market to attain good performance metrics. I don't know whether or not their performance metrics are bad enough to break their contract or not? But sooner or later that contract will need to be renegotiated. If things don't change I don't think they will extend it. But what do I know, I didn't think Delta would extend the GoJet flying either. I'm not saying Endeavor would get any of the Compass 175's either. In fact Delta seems very happy with SkyWest's west coast operations.
Again, just an opinion, that and a dollar gets you a coffee at LGA.
01-03-2017, 09:00 AM
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01-03-2017, 09:05 AM
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Short term, they're not going anywhere. Long term, I still don't think a 175 operation makes sense here for the cost of running a 2nd fleet type. Delta will work some sort of deal with SKW to run the Compass 175's and maybe send 36 of their CRJ7/9 here, if the planes are to be moved.
Again, just an opinion, that and a dollar gets you a coffee at LGA.
Again, just an opinion, that and a dollar gets you a coffee at LGA.
01-03-2017, 09:21 AM
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I'd say until the end of their contract on the Compass 175's, so 2020 or so. If I were going to place a bet on the first DCI carrier to bite the dust, I'd put it on ExpressJet...
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