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Avroman 01-02-2017 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2272885)
You will, as DL moves to nothing but dual-class in NY.

and in return more of our more senior 900's are pushed in that dump to replace them :mad: here comes 20 year reserve for MSP and 18 for DTW.

Avroman 01-02-2017 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 2273360)
Funny thing is the original program after the SSP would of been the best program in the industry and people couldn't say enough bad things about it. It would of beat any of the AA programs hands down - too bad people didn't bite back then. Guaranteed job at Delta, 300 a year, those guys that went through the program will be at Delta sometime next year and it would of been much quicker if the program would of stuck because the 300 went down to 144.

you mean the 2 or 3 of the 14 that actually were hired in that ETD program? It failed because Delta refused to hire ( or even interview) anyone that they wouldn't have hired for themselves that day. We had a flood of resumes when that program was announced.. Delta rejected 96% without an interview offer... then it was a coin flip for a job offer. It was basically career military ( I think 2 were charter guys the rest MIL) that had moved to desks or drones and weren't flight current... they got current and left rather than wait the years for Delta.
If you were qualified and competitive to apply to Delta, why would you apply to Endeavor with a then $25/hr to start and $37 max FO pay that then required you to be a captain 2 years (when we had 9 year FO's) to go to Delta???
Wendy the Slow Adult, could see through that one...

Avroman 01-02-2017 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Five93H (Post 2273432)
So they'd seriously bid 900 to stay on a big awesome jet with first class over QoL?

Yes, one with a shot at a meal and generally less legs per day and a bigger variety of overnights... and less pilot workload to fly, most of the lifers would. Keep in mind 90% of MSP guys live within 50 miles of MSP.. they wouldn't commute to fly a B747 or they'd have done so a long time ago.

dashdriver44 01-02-2017 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2273437)
you mean the 2 or 3 of the 14 that actually were hired in that ETD program? It failed because Delta refused to hire ( or even interview) anyone that they wouldn't have hired for themselves that day. We had a flood of resumes when that program was announced.. Delta rejected 96% without an interview offer... then it was a coin flip for a job offer. It was basically career military ( I think 2 were charter guys the rest MIL) that had moved to desks or drones and weren't flight current... they got current and left rather than wait the years for Delta.
If you were qualified and competitive to apply to Delta, why would you apply to Endeavor with a then $25/hr to start and $37 max FO pay that then required you to be a captain 2 years (when we had 9 year FO's) to go to Delta???
Wendy the Slow Adult, could see through that one...

Kyle sorry about the double no. You are the most negative person I have ever meet. Enjoy reserve at 9E

Avroman 01-02-2017 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by dashdriver44 (Post 2273442)
Kyle sorry about the double no. You are the most negative person I have ever meet. Enjoy reserve at 9E

You must be mistaken in who I am, and I can assure you, I've been flying with several more negative than I lately as the tune at this place has shifted over the last year.:D Don't choke on that Big Apple.:rolleyes:

madeinUSA 01-02-2017 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2273441)
Yes, one with a shot at a meal and generally less legs per day and a bigger variety of overnights... and less pilot workload to fly, most of the lifers would. Keep in mind 90% of MSP guys live within 50 miles of MSP.. they wouldn't commute to fly a B747 or they'd have done so a long time ago.

For half a Million.... I think they would. The game has changed.

Avroman 01-02-2017 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by madeinUSA (Post 2273455)
For half a Million.... I think they would. The game has changed.

Not when 90% of that 90% is already over 50 years old... They want their weekends off, their 4 weeks vacation, and no risk of furlough. They'll give up the extra pay (that they wouldn't see in time to matter anyway)

TalkTurkey 01-02-2017 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 2273360)
Funny thing is the original program after the SSP would have been the best program in the industry and people couldn't say enough bad things about it. It would of beat any of the AA programs hands down - too bad people didn't bite back then. Guaranteed job at Delta, 300 a year, those guys that went through the program will be at Delta sometime next year and it would have been much quicker if the program would of stuck because the 300 went down to 144.

There fixed it for you.

dashdriver44 01-02-2017 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2273454)
You must be mistaken in who I am, and I can assure you, I've been flying with several more negative than I lately as the tune at this place has shifted over the last year.:D Don't choke on that Big Apple.:rolleyes:

No I'm sure your the most Winey little ***** we have

Avroman 01-02-2017 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by dashdriver44 (Post 2273466)
No I'm sure your the most Winey little ***** we have

We? So either I'm actually at Delta or you really aren't, which is it? ;)


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