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Old 12-23-2016, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Skittles9E
Does anyone know if this is going to be a Jan 1 thing or a "sometime in January" thing.
My guess seeing how this whole iPad thing has gone it's a sometime in January....
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Old 12-23-2016, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Skittles9E
Does anyone know if this is going to be a Jan 1 thing or a "sometime in January" thing.
Test program guy here; sometime in January. Need to get all of the mounts in the airplanes plus spares in bases and all the iPads need to be in base and accounted for before they can be distributed.
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Old 12-23-2016, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RunnerMark
Realistic upgrade time for someone hired in January 2017?
How much time do you have?
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Old 12-23-2016, 03:43 PM
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Any one out here trying to help me out with procedures and some info on how you prepped for FTD? Besides the "know your flows and limitations" idea. Like does any one have an organized list of FFOD and procedures they could help out with or email or anything. Im kind of struggling with gathering it all together since its scattered, if you know what i mean. Please and Thanks.


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Old 12-23-2016, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by iamhim
Any one out here trying to help me out with procedures and some info on how you prepped for FTD? Besides the "know your flows and limitations" idea. Like does any one have an organized list of FFOD and procedures they could help out with or email or anything. Im kind of struggling with gathering it all together since its scattered, if you know what i mean. Please and Thanks.


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All the FFOD procedures you need to know are on the front cover of the checklist. They all are in addition to the PM flow. Oh, this is all from the 900 CFM so the pages might be different in the 200.

Start off with this it will get you ready to push back from the gate: (assume all your FTD and sim sessions are FFOD)

showing up to a cold dark cockpit need to do the following to get the aircraft powered up:
CFM 3-25 Interior inspection*
CFM 4-13 *Electrical power up (apu or ground power) (dont forget to read notes about apu fire check and battery level to start)
CFM 3-27 Exterior inspection (might not need for sim bus still part of procedure)

once those are done need to check certain things on your side of the cockpit:
CFM 3-41 CA preflight (not really necessary but CA has certain things to check)
CFM 3-44 FO preflight

then, depending who is PM or PF you have a few more things to do:
CFM 3-32 PF procedure (pretty much programming FMS)
CFM 3-35 PM procedure (where all the FFOD are and configuring the panel) (most of the FFOD proceudres are in chapter 4)

after all that is done do the (CFM 7-11) clearance verification and (FOM 8-67) departure brief (WARTS).

for the FTD not too many emergency procedures will be introduced but you should be able to go from a cold-dark cockpit, takeoff, cruise, shoot an ils, taxi to the gate, and shut down. once you can do that you will be fine in the FTD. its been a while but i believe the first FTD lesson was just from powerup to takeoff. every lesson becomes further and further into a flight till at the last FTD lesson its an entire flight.

i agree everything is all over the place but you have to dig for it.

A couple of other things that are annoying:

The departure and arrival briefs are in the FOM starting on page 8-67
flap retraction speeds on 7-20
alot of additional procedures are in chapter 4 of the CFM

Feel free to PM me if you have a question or need help.

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Old 12-23-2016, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by aviationfrk
All the FFOD procedures you need to know are on the front cover of the checklist. They all are in addition to the PM flow. Oh, this is all from the 900 CFM so the pages might be different in the 200.

Start off with this it will get you ready to push back from the gate: (assume all your FTD and sim sessions are FFOD)

showing up to a cold dark cockpit need to do the following to get the aircraft powered up:
CFM 3-25 Interior inspection*
CFM 4-13 *Electrical power up (apu or ground power) (dont forget to read notes about apu fire check and battery level to start)
CFM 3-27 Exterior inspection (might not need for sim bus still part of procedure)

once those are done need to check certain things on your side of the cockpit:
CFM 3-41 CA preflight (not really necessary but CA has certain things to check)
CFM 3-44 FO preflight

then, depending who is PM or PF you have a few more things to do:
CFM 3-32 PF procedure (pretty much programming FMS)
CFM 3-35 PM procedure (where all the FFOD are and configuring the panel) (most of the FFOD proceudres are in chapter 4)

after all that is done do the (CFM 7-11) clearance verification and (FOM 8-67) departure brief (WARTS).

for the FTD not too many emergency procedures will be introduced but you should be able to go from a cold-dark cockpit, takeoff, cruise, shoot an ils, taxi to the gate, and shut down. once you can do that you will be fine in the FTD. its been a while but i believe the first FTD lesson was just from powerup to takeoff. every lesson becomes further and further into a flight till at the last FTD lesson its an entire flight.

i agree everything is all over the place but you have to dig for it.

A couple of other things that are annoying:

The departure and arrival briefs are in the FOM starting on page 8-67
flap retraction speeds on 7-20
alot of additional procedures are in chapter 4 of the CFM

Feel free to PM me if you have a question or need help.


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Old 12-24-2016, 12:48 PM
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With all this frantic hiring by all, how is EDV doing on scheduling CTP for NH? Shortly after the CJO, or wait for weeks?
And do they do their own, or contract out to CAE or someone?

Lastly, does the CTP add any value to ones life, or is it just an FAA box to check?
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Old 12-24-2016, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MidLife
With all this frantic hiring by all, how is EDV doing on scheduling CTP for NH? Shortly after the CJO, or wait for weeks?
And do they do their own, or contract out to CAE or someone?

Lastly, does the CTP add any value to ones life, or is it just an FAA box to check?
They do their best to book your CTP the day of your interview when you get your CJO, if not then shortly after. They aim to put you in CTP 2 to 3 weeks before your class date. Done at CAE dallas. Little value, more of a box. Sims are good practice, but grounds are death by private pilot PowerPoints.
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Old 12-24-2016, 01:09 PM
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Break between CTP & Indoc to go home and do ATP knowledge test, or do they administer the knowledge test?
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Old 12-24-2016, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wiggy15
... Little value, more of a box. Sims are good practice, but grounds are death by private pilot PowerPoints.
Sounds like gotta bring the no-doz
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