Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
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This. We need to make this the best possible place to work and highest pay for all of us. Even factoring the bonus, many captains are still not whole from pre-bankruptcy.
A friend of mine was asking advice in choosing between us and Envoy. One of the pieces I have him was to go somewhere he would be happy to stay if the music stops. Most people's plan is to get experience at a regional, then move on to a major. Remember, Custer had a plan too. Pay rates are a lot more difficult to take away than a bonus. Let's get them as high as possible.
A friend of mine was asking advice in choosing between us and Envoy. One of the pieces I have him was to go somewhere he would be happy to stay if the music stops. Most people's plan is to get experience at a regional, then move on to a major. Remember, Custer had a plan too. Pay rates are a lot more difficult to take away than a bonus. Let's get them as high as possible.
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I was in the same boat, no signing bonus, worked myself hard for probably 7 of the 12 months on year 1 pay, excluding a referral bonus I just broke 70K.
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No, they don't want you to stay more than a few years. Up grade, fly 2 years and go away. Do you think they want you to spend your career
there? Look what happened to Comair, too expensive and too demanding.
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Right now people are upgrading with the FAR 1,000 and company mins are being reduced to 300 company. And a descent amount of (30?) went unfilled on the last bid.
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So your saying that they took 60% of the guys from the SSP. I think your numbers are pretty far off! According to the last FOU the total for the year with a CJO is 45%
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Well, feel free to go, we will move up more quickly. ![Wink](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
J/K, no we need you. And that is why I personally would love to see the bonuses go away and prefer a pay hike across the board, equal to what we are making today, or higher (preferably, and by the time it happens, possible, I think).
I mean, bonuses are nice, but who the heck wants to take a pay cut their second year? And what pilot already on property wants to see a new hire making $5-20K more than they did just a few months or years ago? Give us a pay rate that makes us competitive, preferably industry-leading, like $73 an hour for a FYFO and $103 for a FYCA. Then, if you want to be able to affect hiring, authorize a bonus on top of that basic pay rate for all.
Will it happen? Probably not. Once can dream. But I know for DARN sure those above us will never just give it to us unless we ask for it.
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J/K, no we need you. And that is why I personally would love to see the bonuses go away and prefer a pay hike across the board, equal to what we are making today, or higher (preferably, and by the time it happens, possible, I think).
I mean, bonuses are nice, but who the heck wants to take a pay cut their second year? And what pilot already on property wants to see a new hire making $5-20K more than they did just a few months or years ago? Give us a pay rate that makes us competitive, preferably industry-leading, like $73 an hour for a FYFO and $103 for a FYCA. Then, if you want to be able to affect hiring, authorize a bonus on top of that basic pay rate for all.
Will it happen? Probably not. Once can dream. But I know for DARN sure those above us will never just give it to us unless we ask for it.
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The unfilled amount wasn't because people weren't qualified, they were because the company chose to not fill them, for what its worth.
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