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Old 12-13-2016, 06:25 PM
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And that cannot continue. 50 seaters will age out and go away. Scope will HAVE to be relaxed, as no one will build 50 seaters. What then? Just don't fly the lines? I don't think so, I think 70-90 seaters will replace them.

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Scope is Maxed out. Nobody is really adding ac just shuffling deck
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:29 PM
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And that cannot continue. 50 seaters will age out and go away. Scope will HAVE to be relaxed, as no one will build 50 seaters. What then? Just don't fly the lines? I don't think so, I think 70-90 seaters will replace them.
Yeah... Regionals will shrink as an industry. Shrink and shrink and shrink.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
And that cannot continue. 50 seaters will age out and go away. Scope will HAVE to be relaxed, as no one will build 50 seaters. What then? Just don't fly the lines? I don't think so, I think 70-90 seaters will replace them.
Not in this environment. As I understand it DL approached the pilots on a 2 for 1 deal (2 50's for one more 76'er) and it was rejected.

The 90+ 717's and to an extent the CS100 are the answer. CS100 will replace 88's and upgauge some 717 flying while the 717 will replace more 76-seat flying.

For example northern hubs (MSP, DTW, NYC) to Texas would be a perfect spot for the CS100. Routes where the 717 struggles in payload but the demand is just short for something in the A319/320 range. A realm that is currently (almost) exclusively -900/175 territory. My $.02.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen
Yeah... Regionals will shrink as an industry. Shrink and shrink and shrink.
Or just consolidate?
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:42 PM
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Cyclical. When the main lines start hurting again as they do every 10 years or so, regionals will be desired or even required again. Just look at the history. Also when NAI takes jobs, the legacy carriers will want to spend less, using regionals.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Can't speak to the time spent on RSV, but in JFK days off range between 11-18 on the 200, and 11-19 on the 900. LGA shows the 200 guys having 11-18 off, and the 900 folks have 11-20 days off, with quite a few in the 16-17 range.
What's the average time in RSV bfr holding a line for 200 & 900 at JFK?
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Old 12-13-2016, 07:01 PM
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If they open ATL im sure they is about to be a mass exodus of people from
ASA.. no problem finding people..
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Old 12-13-2016, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripilot25
What's the average time in RSV bfr holding a line for 200 & 900 at JFK?
JFK 200 Junior line holder on the mock bid is late August '16; 1-2 month reserve once complete with training.

JFK 900 Junior Line holder is early September '16; 1-2 months reserve.


I would expect JFK 900 reserve to increase in the next couple of months, for comparison LGA 900 still has early July hires on reserve.
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Old 12-13-2016, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
And that cannot continue. 50 seaters will age out and go away. Scope will HAVE to be relaxed, as no one will build 50 seaters. What then? Just don't fly the lines? I don't think so, I think 70-90 seaters will replace them.
You're kidding right? A regional pilot advocating a relaxation of scope clause? That has to be the first time ever. You are literally advocating for a continuation of the whipsaw.
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Old 12-13-2016, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FODhopper
We were told in Indoc today byt the network planner that there were about 2-3 more lines to staff up in NYC. I'll review my notes and summarize a little later.
He also stated that the NYC 200 bases are only temporary and will likely shrink and go away late 2017/early 2018. Delta wants a two class product in NYC and the 200s will slowly make their way back to DTW and MSP as the 900s go to NYC.
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