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Old 12-07-2016, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Are you saying you were withheld at lower than the standard 25% on your bonus?
Correct. I claim 9 exemptions and get almost the whole thing...around $7k.
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Exactly, assuming you set the plane up correct in Trumpland, and the plane doesn't break badly on the runway... as PM, turn a heading knob twice while raising the gear... that's all you HAVE to do before anything else outside a radio call or two
Hey you know that 200 from the desert? The moron captain didn't write it up but when yoi spin the knob right, it goes left, and when you go left, it goes left, until you get past about 320, then it dances right and left between 320 and 010. Your partner about then will ask you *** you're doing, and as you explain it to him, that 180 heading is closer to 240 than it is to 180, but don't worry that turn back to 040 will be at 010 because that was where the heading bug ended up at when the FO turned on the autopilot because "thatll get it in the right direction for now, get that qrh out for non eicas messages ill take the radio." Just in time for the "endeavor, say heading", and out of muscle memory he spins it right, only to watch in terror as it goes further left. Kicks off the autopilot and blows the altitude.

Dont worry, youll get that airspeed restriction above 10k. After all you're both flying the airplane by now.

It's a good argument for and against handflying, but a pro argument for asap and tcas ( thats curtosy of management who loves you, no wait, i mean that bully alpa).
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:02 PM
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Shouldn't be, unless payroll is messing up. Regardless of other deductions, Federal is withheld at a flat 25% unless a bonus is included in regular salary, which ours is not. 75% of $7666 should be $5750.

ETA: Just looked, and my Federal was exactly 25%. Doesn't matter what exemptions I claimed.

Calculate withholding adjustments. If your employer issues separate bonus checks that do not include any regular wages, your employer withholds income tax at a flat rate of 25 percent. This rate is automatic, which means the marital status and number of allowances you normally claim are irrelevant. In this case, write “Exempt” on line 7.
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Correct. I claim 9 exemptions and get almost the whole thing...around $7k.
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:10 PM
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If you can't hand fly a couple of headings without a heading bug and/or an AP, while maintaining a speed restriction... Perhaps you should consider a different career. As a holder of the equivalent of a Masters degree in flying (ATP), you should be able to fly the plane no matter what happens. I mean, what happens if you call for AP on at 600', and it fails to come on? Will you just abandon the departure procedure? Of course not. Have the PM hit the FD button, getting rid of all those distractions, and fly a heading and an airspeed.

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Hey you know that 200 from the desert? The moron captain didn't write it up but when yoi spin the knob right, it goes left, and when you go left, it goes left, until you get past about 320, then it dances right and left between 320 and 010. Your partner about then will ask you *** you're doing, and as you explain it to him, that 180 heading is closer to 240 than it is to 180, but don't worry that turn back to 040 will be at 010 because that was where the heading bug ended up at when the FO turned on the autopilot because "thatll get it in the right direction for now, get that qrh out for non eicas messages ill take the radio." Just in time for the "endeavor, say heading", and out of muscle memory he spins it right, only to watch in terror as it goes further left. Kicks off the autopilot and blows the altitude.

Dont worry, youll get that airspeed restriction above 10k. After all you're both flying the airplane by now.

It's a good argument for and against handflying, but a pro argument for asap and tcas ( thats curtosy of management who loves you, no wait, i mean that bully alpa).
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
New hire complaining about making 50K plus first year!! LOL don't ever bring that up in the flight deck
I've said this before but I guess it needs to be said again. A lot of us new hires are just as or more experienced than the captains we are flying with. We just decided not to work for pennies, so we flew corporate instead until the money got right (it still isn't there, but it's getting close). It doesn't make us spoiled or ungrateful, we just know what we are worth.

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It may be. But shouldn't anyone with a job know that taxes come out of their pay?
Relax, man. The guy asked a question. Lyon knew the variable the guy wasn't accounting for and corrected it. Simple as that, nothing more needed to be said.

Originally Posted by HighFlight
To help with the "sticker shock" of your bonus checks... The Federal taxes are withheld at 25% (typically higher than anyone here's normal Fed rate), on top of your other deductions. So a $6,666.68 gross check will end up being less than $4,490 by the time it hits your bank.
For anyone not currently working here, the bonus check every 4 months ends up at ~4k until tax returns come around.

Also, your comment above about raw data flying - completely agree.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:07 PM
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I am more than relaxed. Actually threw in some humor above, in case you missed it.

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Relax, man. The guy asked a question. Lyon knew the variable the guy wasn't accounting for and corrected it. Simple as that, nothing more needed to be said.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Shouldn't be, unless payroll is messing up. Regardless of other deductions, Federal is withheld at a flat 25% unless a bonus is included in regular salary, which ours is not. 75% of $7666 should be $5750.

ETA: Just looked, and my Federal was exactly 25%. Doesn't matter what exemptions I claimed.
25% federal (IRS rules), then SS and Medicare, state (if applicable), ALPA (2% for easy math), and 401k (if so selected). That's a simple way for anyone to run the numbers. The retentions don't reference W-2 selections. If you pay above a 25% federal, you would owe (in theory), and if under, it's a return (once again in theory). Either check with your tax advisor (if applicable) or use the government site to determine gross earnings with bonus for your W-2 calculations. Hopefully, it's a mute point with the stated negotiations in payrates for all who are currently on payroll. For those new or newly joining, alpa has sent an email spelling this out a few times now. If you figure 50% net, you will either hit the mark or be happily surprised. Don't spend it all in one place.
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by musketeer
I've said this before but I guess it needs to be said again. A lot of us new hires are just as or more experienced than the captains we are flying with. We just decided not to work for pennies, so we flew corporate instead until the money got right (it still isn't there, but it's getting close). It doesn't make us spoiled or ungrateful, we just know what we are worth.
This one speaks the truth!
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:13 AM
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I been reading all the back a forward on basic pay during training and my concern here is making base pay after OE.
-What is a typical monthly salary after training?
-How easy is to make an extra $1K a month?
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
If you can't hand fly a couple of headings without a heading bug and/or an AP, while maintaining a speed restriction... Perhaps you should consider a different career. As a holder of the equivalent of a Masters degree in flying (ATP), you should be able to fly the plane no matter what happens. I mean, what happens if you call for AP on at 600', and it fails to come on? Will you just abandon the departure procedure? Of course not. Have the PM hit the FD button, getting rid of all those distractions, and fly a heading and an airspeed.
Im turning in my certificates today good fellow.

Those are a lot of stupid questions but I'm sure, if allowed, the NMFC (its a group of old, stupid, pinnacle instructors that are mostly gone or banished to the phx training center) could create a scenario in the sim just for that story. I bring up that NMFC name because of the masters degree comparison, there was at least one old drunk lsu grad trying to sell that line of crap to pilots. Takes me back.

Something that stupid happens in the cockpit, followed by a little more stupidity, you do the best you can. Of course it's an internet story full of hyperbole, trying to make it as funny as possible, but take it seriously as I take your questions.
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