Originally Posted by gloopy

Haven't the majority of regional pilots that interviewed been offered the job? IMO DL's resistance to flows has nothing to do with AK. As of very recently, DL at the highest levels is still very anti flow. That doesn't mean anti regional at all. But they zealously protect their ability to take who they want. And they take most regional pilots who interview. We've only been hiring for a couple/few years and DL has taken what, 700ish EDV pilots? All while attrition to OAL is 1/10th that number? That's probably by far the single largest group unless you combine all military put together, and even then its competitive. Compared to any other regional its probably off the charts.

I'd like to see the ridiculous second day stuff go away though. Lots of good people get burned by that and IMO there is no gain with it. But as for recruiting pilots, they will have no problem if they offer near or above industry leading pay coupled with a pref interview program that takes 700 pilots from a 1700 pilot airline every 2-3 years. Even if there were to be a flow its doubtful the numbers would exceed that.

On the surface it seems like the overall success rate is close to 2/3, especially if you back out the initial wave of unsuccessful applicants that were 100% the result of poorly advertised local union braggadocio over what the program even was in the first place. Now that everyone knows you have to takeout seriously the success rate will probably creep up even higher.

In any case I wouldn't wait for a flow. IMO that's not happening anytime in the next few years at least.

Originally Posted by TalkTurkey

I really don't think the majority of new 9E pilots care to go to Delta. They came for the money. A flow is merely a recruiting tool that is a last resort IMO. I can really imagine that when our 9E guys are ready for their interview at the mothership following 2 years of PIC, other airlines would have gotten their attention, and perhaps even interviewed/hired them. Stuff is changing.

Originally Posted by Kforekyle

Pilots are going to AA wo airlines because of the flow period! Our class numbers have dropped off significantly as a direct result of their competitive pay and flow.

Originally Posted by gloopy

That's fine, but IMO its not going to change DL's no flow policy. And no, DL isn't going into mass cancellation mode because they bwon'thave a flow. They're confident they'll get the pilots they need, and if they don't they'll do other things long before they agree to a straight flow.

Originally Posted by Kforekyle

Pilots are going to AA wo airlines because of the flow period! Our class numbers have dropped off significantly as a direct result of their competitive pay and flow.

Originally Posted by chucknav

What are you paid during initial training? Are hotels single occupancy? Rental car? What about re-current training?