Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
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Been looking into how this works and was just wanting clarification on how the system works.
-I see mention of "qualified children" but bit exactly what "qualifies". My situation....I have 5 kids aged 16, 21,21, 23 and 25. Also, for parents....is there a dependency requirement or just as long as they are my parents.
-I'm assuming there are limits as to how many trips are available but couldn't find that either.
-I understand the differences between the non Rev and low fee fares.
I know they'll probably tell us all this in class but I was just wanting to get it straight before I go in January.
Thanks for your time
-I see mention of "qualified children" but bit exactly what "qualifies". My situation....I have 5 kids aged 16, 21,21, 23 and 25. Also, for parents....is there a dependency requirement or just as long as they are my parents.
-I'm assuming there are limits as to how many trips are available but couldn't find that either.
-I understand the differences between the non Rev and low fee fares.
I know they'll probably tell us all this in class but I was just wanting to get it straight before I go in January.
Thanks for your time
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#8652
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May I ask what the current junior Captain is in NY on the -200 and -900? Are people bidding it in new hire class or shortly there after? I am rated but not current. New York does not scare me! Thank you.
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AA offer true cradle to grave paths. You can be in the system as a CFI, flight benefits, etc then when you have your time, straight into an RJ class.
We are behind on that front, but hopefully not for long. The folks doing our recruiting/hiring are doing their best and staying ahead as much as possible.
We are behind on that front, but hopefully not for long. The folks doing our recruiting/hiring are doing their best and staying ahead as much as possible.
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I'll bid off and in a quick mental math game, I have 20 names of guys that would be doing the same. Ran out of fingers and toes. 20 + me in under 5 mins for the left seat. 12 flights on DL for 1:30 of time to ATL just from Mem... beats anywhere else hands down. Plenty of others have an easier commute to ATL compared to Dtw and NYC. Some even MSP. I did msp for a while and it worked out ok, and on my weekly flights up I still see many Mem nonrevs heading to or from. A southern base would do far more than attract newhires.
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I also think AA and Delta are going to take entirely different fundamental approaches to the product they offer their customers. And that in turn reflects on their business and hiring needs. Delta will likely always pay more and offer a better product than American. American is setting itself up to be the "Wally World" of legacy airline flying. Think a huge LCC that also offers different tiers of flying. I just can't see Delta going down that road. A lot of that is Kirby's legacy and look at what his plans are for United now. They are almost identical to what American is already in the process of doing, he's just got a different deck of cards to play with now. American is way more heavily invested in its regional feed at the end of the day. And it has much more to lose if it's regionals fail. Therefore, American needs a flow, attractive compensation packages, and cradle-to-grave career paths to keep the business afloat. Delta doesn't need that, and likely never will.
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I'd like to see the ridiculous second day stuff go away though. Lots of good people get burned by that and IMO there is no gain with it. But as for recruiting pilots, they will have no problem if they offer near or above industry leading pay coupled with a pref interview program that takes 700 pilots from a 1700 pilot airline every 2-3 years. Even if there were to be a flow its doubtful the numbers would exceed that.
On the surface it seems like the overall success rate is close to 2/3, especially if you back out the initial wave of unsuccessful applicants that were 100% the result of poorly advertised local union braggadocio over what the program even was in the first place. Now that everyone knows you have to takeout seriously the success rate will probably creep up even higher.
In any case I wouldn't wait for a flow. IMO that's not happening anytime in the next few years at least.
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I really don't think the majority of new 9E pilots care to go to Delta. They came for the money. A flow is merely a recruiting tool that is a last resort IMO. I can really imagine that when our 9E guys are ready for their interview at the mothership following 2 years of PIC, other airlines would have gotten their attention, and perhaps even interviewed/hired them. Stuff is changing.
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