WhiskeyKilo

I highly recommend reading through it. It probably won't sink in the first time but I flew with a sharp captain recently that told me scheduling had violated the contract when I was assigned a trip which enabled me to file a grievance.

Know your rights per the contract and know what you are legally able to do/refuse.

Gearswinger

I agree on knowing it, but be aware that the union has said that you should not refuse things. Their official position is to fly it and then grieve it.

madeinUSA

Ultimately, the less people that show up for training the better it is for the pilot group. Seeing that management only reacts to attrition and hiring numbers.

higney85

If you can point to the violation, bring it up, many times that's all it takes to be corrected, everyone makes mistakes. If it's still a violation but you are FAR legal, fly it and grieve it. The grievance will yield a remedy- likely a payment or comp day, sometime both. The unfortunate reality is if not grieved, it's not known as a problem, so some get to be the sacrificial lamb for the rest. Once it's known that an illegal (to the contract) situation has occurred, the grievance process will put in place additional guidance so it doesn't happen again (theoretically). No process exists without finding a problem and fixing it going further, and it unfortunately occurs across both regionals and majors.

Some may scream BS from the highest of vocal chords, but in the end it works pretty well. As stated, someone normally ends up the sacrificial lamb in the process and gets some $$ or extra time off, post event. The "fly it, grieve it" mindset keeps the situation away from hurting the operation and meeting with someone who can levy a harsh punishment, and instead keeps you a victim of circumstance and an innocent example of what should not occur going forward. Love it or hate it, but that's how it works.

msprj2

I'm sure that's working well at air Wisconsin. When costs get to high they can just go somewhere else

JesuitValen

That's true, at some point the gravy train stops. However, Delta doesn't seem like we're there yet.

Slaveaway

If I'm assigned a ready reserve shift and end up flying does that shift count forward the max 10 per month?

Dude Abides

And there's the difference. Our owners (Delta) need us, Air Whiskey owners don't "need" pilots in the same fashion. They can call it good and take the profits to buy a boat to sail away.

Skittles9E

If you were assigned it and then received an assignment while on RR it counts. If you were assigned RR but then pulled off to do an overnight, day trip, etc. it does not. To simplify, if you were sitting at the airport on RR for any length of time it counts

Kforekyle

To secure the future of this airline, Delta needs to put in place a solid career progression, whether that be a flow or a staple.