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Old 10-08-2016, 06:39 AM
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The -200 is a Miata and the -900 is the Expedition. One is maneuverable, but not powerful and the other is able to climb and can carry more.

In the end, it's the same type rating and eventually it will be dual-qual anyway.
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Old 10-08-2016, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by higney85
The -200 is a Miata and the -900 is the Expedition. One is maneuverable, but not powerful and the other is able to climb and can carry more.

In the end, it's the same type rating and eventually it will be dual-qual anyway.
I agree, I think we will be flying both when ever the company wants. PSA, Skywest and I think expressjet fly all three in a trip! Like the others have said who cares the wheels go up and they come back down and they all land on a black peice of pavement some where other then home. I'd go with easiest commute or where you can stand to live.
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Old 10-08-2016, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by stillcantfly
I agree, I think we will be flying both when ever the company wants. PSA, Skywest and I think expressjet fly all three in a trip! Like the others have said who cares the wheels go up and they come back down and they all land on a black peice of pavement some where other then home. I'd go with easiest commute or where you can stand to live.
AFAIK Expressjet has 2 and 7/9 as separate, Skywest I think crosses between the jets but not as likely all in the same day (clarification?). PSA it seems you definitely jump from jet to jet in a day.

Isn't it down more to the FSDO approving it? That was my understanding at least.
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Old 10-08-2016, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by stillcantfly
I agree, I think we will be flying both when ever the company wants. PSA, Skywest and I think expressjet fly all three in a trip! Like the others have said who cares the wheels go up and they come back down and they all land on a black peice of pavement some where other then home. I'd go with easiest commute or where you can stand to live.
Expressjet does not, there is a 200 group and a 700/900 group. Skywest does not schedule trips that include both the 200 and 700/900, but it can happen in an IROP. Do I think it's going to happen here, maybe, do I really care, not really. It is that hard to land a plane with leading edge devices and one without from the same family, no its not, having done it previously.

Every original DC9 operator did it and it was never an issue there.
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Old 10-08-2016, 08:16 AM
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It isn't a big deal if you've been flying both of the jets for a while. Some issues arose with our DECs who didn't have any time on the airplanes and brand new FOs who didn't have much experience were paired together on reserve and they could potentially fly the 2/7/9 in one day... However those days are pretty much gone because our airframes are more segregated by base (not totally but much more than they used to be) and we don't really have a lot of inexperienced crew being paired together like we did during our rapid growth period.
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Old 10-08-2016, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
It isn't a big deal if you've been flying both of the jets for a while. Some issues arose with our DECs who didn't have any time on the airplanes and brand new FOs who didn't have much experience were paired together on reserve and they could potentially fly the 2/7/9 in one day... However those days are pretty much gone because our airframes are more segregated by base (not totally but much more than they used to be) and we don't really have a lot of inexperienced crew being paired together like we did during our rapid growth period.
Thanks for the input! Are trips built with any airframe in mind? Any rhyme or reason?

I'm not keen on dual qual unless they make it worth it. Much better QOL on the 200 than 900 for me, and the trailing link gear helps me get that "nice landing" ego boost when giving 'buh-byes'.
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:39 AM
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16-05 is out. The upgrades appear to come to a screeching halt. Word on the street is that we are totally equipped until next spring in terms of aircraft count. I speculate that all hiring now until then will be to cover attrition.

Argument? Corroboration? Rumor mill?
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:03 AM
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16-05 is out. The upgrades appear to come to a screeching halt. Word on the street is that we are totally equipped until next spring in terms of aircraft count. I speculate that all hiring now until then will be to cover attrition.

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Well attrition will be constant so check one.

Probably smart to hire a little in advance of any more aircraft come calling. Ive heard more 200s next year starting march from management but it's tough to tell what they mean sometimes.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen
Well attrition will be constant so check one.

Probably smart to hire a little in advance of any more aircraft come calling. Ive heard more 200s next year starting march from management but it's tough to tell what they mean sometimes.
I spoke to a techOps guy who was formerally domiciled in Kingman. He said they've all packed up and left there. No more coming out from there.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:22 AM
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I spoke to a techOps guy who was formerally domiciled in Kingman. He said they've all packed up and left there. No more coming out from there.
I was at their little BBQ lunch in Detroit last Thursday with senior leadership. They said growth coming from other regionals as their contracts expire. I don't know how to read them. They didn't seem comfortable while speaking and seemed to avoid eye contact. Could just be my lack of trust with them or that they don't like speaking to groups. Wait and see I guess
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