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Old 09-23-2016, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
How long is DL planning on operating the -200???
I'm fairly certain even Delta doesn't know the answer to that question.
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:22 PM
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Not sure if sarcasm.

I would say, in this order: locked down pay rates (49/hr min) so no more bonus, an improvement on DGI, commuter hotels (8/mo.), and finally long call reserve (basically just copy paste how mainline DL does reserve).
Love the long call, add no more ready reserve ever!! copy and paste delta rsv rules
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by musketeer
1. Flow
2. 60/hr without a bonus is reasonable
3. Commuter hotels
4. Active 9E higher priority than DL retirees
5. Long call reserve

Flow and nonrev priority would have to be put into Delta's contract language, though. Not expecting much there.
I like this one as well amazing how so many want flow! I do as well nice to dream though! I'd put long call above commuter hotels just pay for a crash pad it's whatever better QOL if your able to sit at home on RSV
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherWriter
I'm fairly certain even Delta doesn't know the answer to that question.
DL is a MASTER at strategic management (atleast Richard Anderson was/is... ).

Southwest Airline is also.
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Old 09-24-2016, 06:52 AM
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1. Flow
2. Pay increase
3. Reserve long call
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Old 09-24-2016, 06:56 AM
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I wouldn't waste energy on flow.
Try and get real gains that will actually happen.
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Farmlover
I wouldn't waste energy on flow.
Try and get real gains that will actually happen.

Why it's finally a pilots market? The ball is in our court. Real gains are mainline jobs which = higher pay.
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Old 09-24-2016, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FreightWasScary
Why it's finally a pilots market? The ball is in our court. Real gains are mainline jobs which = higher pay.
Because unless you have a checkered past, the numbers of pilots needed at the majors in the next 5-10 years is staggering. You don't need a flow to get to a major, it's just a new carrot trick to get new hires in the door
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:10 AM
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You don't need a flow. Mainline will be on their knees begging for pilots in 5-10 years.

1. First year FO pay +60/hr (all other pay scales accordingly) plus bonuses
2. Long Call Reserve
3. Active 9E higher priority than DL retirees
4. Cost of living stipend for large cities (i.e. NYC, ATL, LAX, etc)

The reason I include cost of living for bases that we don't have is because everything in this industry has a ripple effect. If they want people to base in NYC then they need to adjust the wages/stipend so that people can live there.
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo
You don't need a flow. Mainline will be on their knees begging for pilots in 5-10 years.

1. First year FO pay +60/hr (all other pay scales accordingly) plus bonuses
2. Long Call Reserve
3. Active 9E higher priority than DL retirees
4. Cost of living stipend for large cities (i.e. NYC, ATL, LAX, etc)

The reason I include cost of living for bases that we don't have is because everything in this industry has a ripple effect. If they want people to base in NYC then they need to adjust the wages/stipend so that people can live there.
I'd prefer to see a stipend for all commuters 50 miles or more away from one of our bases or for the company to pay for commuter hotels.

That, reserve rules, and an increase in FO pay above $60/HR and Capt pay back to pre bankruptcy rates + inflation.
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