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Old 09-12-2016, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
I can't offer anything on lines out of Ney York. But Shuttle does hourly flights from DCA to LGA. Or at least they used to. Most of our flying is east of the Mississippi. As far as upgrade, currently there is a company requirement of 1000 hours. That is reducible all the way down to street captain to meet company needs. There has been some upgrading with lower on the last two vacancies. I'm sure others will have more specifics. Good luck
If you have 800+ hours, you'll likely be set to upgrade within a few months of completing initial training. Thought I saw something on one of the company social media channels recently saying 6-9 months or close to that. Can't remember where I saw it.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:27 AM
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Typically any better or worse flying from New York than say like Detroit or Msp. From the Midwest and wanna get it of the northeast cooridor once and a while
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Old 09-12-2016, 12:07 PM
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Typically any better or worse flying from New York than say like Detroit or Msp. From the Midwest and wanna get it of the northeast cooridor once and a while
I'm either hypoxic or stupid (probably both) but I don't understand what you are asking.
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Old 09-12-2016, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
Typically any better or worse flying from New York than say like Detroit or Msp. From the Midwest and wanna get it of the northeast cooridor once and a while
MSP you might get some stuff not in the northeast corridor (Dakotas, Iowa, and the like) Detroit and NYC is much of the same flying.

On the -900 you'll see Florida/Texas/Oklahoma.

With the -200 it's a lot of upstate NYC, New England, Carolinas.
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:25 PM
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I guess it would be a "loss" of 100-150 or so frames (not sure exactly how many 50's are flying around ATM, and the number is always in flux anyway) but they definitely want Fifty more 76 seaters (really 90 seaters with a desirable first class, etc).

Obviously the exact number in question would effect the total seats portion of the equation, but in pretty much any case doing so would be a reaction, and in general a reduction would be a good thing in and of itself.

However the very reason they (the company) wants to do this in the first place is because they know going forward they are going to have a VERY hard time staffing the regional model, and eventually parking 50's to take on more 76's allows for 50%+ more pax to be flown by whatever number of pilots they can manage to keep at any given time.

So basically doing this would breathe more life into the program and make it more viable than it otherwise would be. Clearly that is the only reason they would even attempt to do something like that.

I don't trust them with this iteration of RJ's anymore than the days of "hey all we want are twenty 70 seaters, total pinky promise!" etc.
The 76 seat jets actually cost less to operate than the 50 seaters. We have 200's that are market specific, and may sit for several hours, even up to 24 hours without flying. Since the 76 seater can be flown on way more routes, it makes sense to replace all the 50 seaters with 76 seat jets, and cover the displaced 76 seat flying with the C-series. So, this is exactly what Delta is doing, DALPA will allow it.
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Old 09-12-2016, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The 76 seat jets actually cost less to operate than the 50 seaters. We have 200's that are market specific, and may sit for several hours, even up to 24 hours without flying. Since the 76 seater can be flown on way more routes, it makes sense to replace all the 50 seaters with 76 seat jets, and cover the displaced 76 seat flying with the C-series. So, this is exactly what Delta is doing, DALPA will allow it.
Makes sense. But what's the deal with the -200 expansion then? Temporary?
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Old 09-12-2016, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The 76 seat jets actually cost less to operate than the 50 seaters. We have 200's that are market specific, and may sit for several hours, even up to 24 hours without flying. Since the 76 seater can be flown on way more routes, it makes sense to replace all the 50 seaters with 76 seat jets, and cover the displaced 76 seat flying with the C-series. So, this is exactly what Delta is doing, DALPA will allow it.


Just because DALPA may sign off on it doesn't mean our pilots will during a contract vote. In fact, the more we hire former RJ drivers, the lower the probability more RJs will be allowed.
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Old 09-12-2016, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stringandrudder
Makes sense. But what's the deal with the -200 expansion then? Temporary?
Airplanes aren't the commodity that is hard to come by, pilots are. If you can grow your pilot group by adding airplanes (even if they are only temporary), then so be it, so you can staff other airplanes later, if the need comes.
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Old 09-12-2016, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The 76 seat jets actually cost less to operate than the 50 seaters. We have 200's that are market specific, and may sit for several hours, even up to 24 hours without flying. Since the 76 seater can be flown on way more routes, it makes sense to replace all the 50 seaters with 76 seat jets, and cover the displaced 76 seat flying with the C-series. So, this is exactly what Delta is doing, DALPA will allow it.
Makes sense as to why we still push for the 60 a month even though we are holding off on the Kingman birds till 2017. I still believe there is something good in the works for the 9E group down the road. The C-series arrival seems to be appropriately timed with deltas contract experiation; correct me if I'm wrong please.
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Old 09-12-2016, 04:42 PM
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The -900 operating costs are roughly 10% higher per block hour.
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