Milk Man

How many 50 seaters are to be flown? Is it a straight swap from 50s to 76s?

If its a loss of airframes by regionals, isn't that a good thing? No?

Five93H

I get that, that's why hourly pay rates would be nice, training pay could be tough with a family and the like to worry about. They put first year pay up a few dollars last year (right as I about finished of course!) but that alone isn't enough, so now they have the training bonuses.

You will get retention for however long you are on property for, pro rated.

Management, union, everybody has said there is 'life after retention bonuses', if not something figured out sooner. Whether it is pay rates or something else, I am not 'in the know' enough to say! What is obvious is that dropping back to whatever hourly rate is base pay isn't an option in this environment.

JG4245

I would love to start soon and take advantage of the pro rated retention bonus. During ground school do you typically have weekends off? I can't start sooner due to a wedding in October and 9E said they cant guarantee the weekend off.

Five93H

That all depends on monthly scheduling. I did my initial in November and we had every weekend off except for Thanksgiving; no class that Thursday/Friday and we made up for it on the Saturday/Sunday.

There's no way to really guarantee that until you receive your schedule prior to training. Now, if the past can indicate anything it's that weekends off during ground school is likely, but if one day they have to cancel class for whatever reason, I'd say it's likely they'd make up the time over a weekend date. Once you hit simworld, very likely you'll be 'working' weekends.

If your wedding is first half of October you could see about getting into the second class that month, perhaps.

gloopy

I guess it would be a "loss" of 100-150 or so frames (not sure exactly how many 50's are flying around ATM, and the number is always in flux anyway) but they definitely want Fifty more 76 seaters (really 90 seaters with a desirable first class, etc).

Obviously the exact number in question would effect the total seats portion of the equation, but in pretty much any case doing so would be a reaction, and in general a reduction would be a good thing in and of itself.

However the very reason they (the company) wants to do this in the first place is because they know going forward they are going to have a VERY hard time staffing the regional model, and eventually parking 50's to take on more 76's allows for 50%+ more pax to be flown by whatever number of pilots they can manage to keep at any given time.

So basically doing this would breathe more life into the program and make it more viable than it otherwise would be. Clearly that is the only reason they would even attempt to do something like that.

I don't trust them with this iteration of RJ's anymore than the days of "hey all we want are twenty 70 seaters, total pinky promise!" etc.

OneInTheMirror

Hah, good one.

Milk Man

Ok, I understand what you are saying. Makes sense.

prex8390

What's a typical line out of NYC on the 900 like? Are they commutable from DCA? Mostly east coast flying out there or do their guys ever venture a little west? What's a guy with 1000 121 prior time looking at for a upgrade?

gojo

I can't offer anything on lines out of Ney York. But Shuttle does hourly flights from DCA to LGA. Or at least they used to. Most of our flying is east of the Mississippi. As far as upgrade, currently there is a company requirement of 1000 hours. That is reducible all the way down to street captain to meet company needs. There has been some upgrading with lower on the last two vacancies. I'm sure others will have more specifics. Good luck

AnotherWriter

Most NYC 900 lines are four day trips with variable report times from early AM to mid afternoon. Typically three to four legs a day, some as high as six to as little as one. Very often at least one deadhead in your trip. Usually will credit between 19 and 25 hours. Overnights all over the system, not just east coast.

DCA, ORD, and BOS are very good commutes to LGA. Weekdays there are hourly flights. The lunch hour these planes sometimes fly nearly empty. They are a harder ticket in the mid morning and late afternoon because of business travelers. Weekends there may only be four a day, but the loads are also typically lighter so it's not so bad, just less optimization of your time.

Hope that answers your questions.