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Old 04-15-2016, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hornetdriver34
Nope, not him. Do they realize that the other majors and mini-majors are starting to scoop us up and won't be waiting for delta to get their act together? I'm all about loyalty but that goes both ways. From what you've said and what the MEC tool told me, it sounds like there's no loyalty coming the other way. Thoughts?
Delta doesn't really care. If you want to work for Delta, they figure you'll stay anyway and if you don't want to work for them, they don't care. The only thing they care about right now, is you are staffing their regional flying.
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Old 04-15-2016, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by hornetdriver34
I talked to one in the crewroom the other day and he said, "just be happy with the $23000." I think he meant the bonus that everyone gets, but I wasn't sure what he meant because everyone gets that. He made it sound like it was special for us. It really didn't make any sense and I didn't want to waste my time explaining basic English to him, so I just discounted what he was saying as BS.
My understanding is that the company and the union had agreed to an ssp type interview that required 2years as CA at Endeavor. However there was
so much pushback from the pilots hired after the SSP and E to D that the union had to tell mgt that those pilots wouldn't accept it. Delta then basically told those pilots hired during that stretch to pound sand.
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Old 04-15-2016, 08:23 AM
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My understanding is that the company and the union had agreed to an ssp type interview that required 2years as CA at Endeavor. However there was
so much pushback from the pilots hired after the SSP and E to D that the union had to tell mgt that those pilots wouldn't accept it. Delta then basically told those pilots hired during that stretch to pound sand.


Yeah, I was told from a prior MEC guy (who's now at delta) that the uSSP plan was trucking along when 3, count them, 3 people said they didn't like it and it got canned. Since I was so new here at that time, I didn't know that it would've been in our best interest to email in and say that we liked the plan. We thought that we would be asked for our opinions before a decision was made. Unfortunately, the only people that phoned in were the 3 people who disliked the plan, so the MEC looked at it as 100%, took the easy and lazy way out, and canned it on the spot.
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Old 04-15-2016, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Delta doesn't really care. If you want to work for Delta, they figure you'll stay anyway and if you don't want to work for them, they don't care. The only thing they care about right now, is you are staffing their regional flying.


Then I guess they're not smart enough to realize that all the quality candidates will have been picked up by the time Delta gets around to hiring what's left?
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Old 04-15-2016, 11:10 AM
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Delta doesn't really care. If you want to work for Delta, they figure you'll stay anyway and if you don't want to work for them, they don't care. The only thing they care about right now, is you are staffing their regional flying.
Actually, they do care, so much so that if you don't do exactly what they say, they spite you.
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hornetdriver34
Yeah, I was told from a prior MEC guy (who's now at delta) that the uSSP plan was trucking along when 3, count them, 3 people said they didn't like it and it got canned. Since I was so new here at that time, I didn't know that it would've been in our best interest to email in and say that we liked the plan. We thought that we would be asked for our opinions before a decision was made. Unfortunately, the only people that phoned in were the 3 people who disliked the plan, so the MEC looked at it as 100%, took the easy and lazy way out, and canned it on the spot.
The way I see It, whoever called into the MEC tried to bite the hand
that fed them. The MEC represents us, they did what the majority
of the pilots, (3 you say) requested.
I guess some of us didn't learn anything from the Comair pilots when
dealing with Delta mgt. They can play hardball.
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:38 PM
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Yeah, I guess. But would you think 3 guys represents all involved? I wouldn't.
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hornetdriver34
Yeah, I guess. But would you think 3 guys represents all involved? I wouldn't.
I wouldn't worry about it too much. I'm sure we will eventually get an SSP style interview. I just don't think it's high up on the MEC's list of things to accomplish at this point
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Old 04-15-2016, 01:40 PM
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I do hope so. I hate the selfishness and laziness of this MEC.
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Old 04-15-2016, 02:41 PM
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I do hope so. I hate the selfishness and laziness of this MEC.
They have CJO's...what do they care!
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