gojo

Ya, my apologies. I let my emotions get the best of me. Carry on

BATOL

Not true at all! My first 121 airplane lacked both ACARS and a printer, somedays I wonder how it ever got off the ground! I wrote everything down on told cards and shared it with my fellow crew member. On this airplane I've discovered a better, more precise, more efficient, and simpler process. It's like autopilot or the APU. I can survive just fine without it, but when I have the tool I'm sure as hell gonna use it. I'm happy to evolve and adapt. I'm willing to accept that there may be a better way to accomplish something. We have a lot of butt hurt here over losing legacy ways and I'll be the first to admit that some changes have seemed, at least on the surface, regressive. But we're all on the same team so can we just share the info so your FO knows what gate your going to when tower asks on final. No, the cockpit isn't huge, but from five feet and at an acute angle yes, it's difficult to read your chicken scratchings.

gojo

Well I know where this comes from. When I crossed over to the Pinnacle side they were using World Flight so there were 3 copies of the release. One to sign and one for each pilot. Both pilots wrote down every single thing on their release. Atis, clearance, pax, bags, t-o speeds and flaps. I was taught this in OE. In addition to that I was taught to spin the X-pndr to 1200, and the alt pre selector to 0. To me it just seems like a lot of extra work. Like I said, it doesn't matter to me who gets wx, landing numbers etc. I just feel it's good teamwork to share it with the other guy/gal

ebuhoner

So I recently got my CJO from Endeavor, and after 5 years of flying I heard for the first time during the presentation the term AQP. Can someone help me with some more details how exactly it works? There is no actual checkride session? We were told that pretty much during training if you mess up on things they will retrain you on whatever you do wrong and move on, and then the last sim seasion is a loft. How many other airlines are doing this now?

madeinUSA

https://www.faa.gov/training_testing/training/aqp/

jules11

Is this the "latest & greatest" about Endeavor? How each cockpit crewmember chooses to/not to write things down? Things must be extraordinarily great here if this is the topic of multiple pages.

wiggy15

Spot training when you mess up. You have a couple mini-checks with a LCA along the way, but all are train to proficiency, so as long as you don't mess something up major, then you continue to progress. If you need more sims, they'll give it to you no problem. You can even ask for more if you want. Your oral is a 15 to 30 minute operational oral; useful parts of the systems stuff, overhead panel, preflight pictorial. Checkride (LOE) is basically a LOFT session - its the only not train to proficiency event, so this is the "jeopardy" one. Simulates two legs of a line flight, one is pilot flying and the other pilot monitoring. It's all about decision making, judgement, and using your resources. No V1 cuts or single engine ILS - that's all earlier in your train to proficiency maneuvers validation. All the majors already do this (I think) and just guessing about half the regionals or so; maybe more, I'm guessing from limited experience. It's a nice program that lets you have a bad day and not mess your whole training up - just don't have a bad day every day. PM if you have anymore questions.

mooney

Once we figure out who is right and who is wrong about who writes what and who sticks it where, just wait till the blue vs black ink debate. 7 pages min.

higney85

You only say that cause you use pink and orange AND use a highlighter all of the release!

Really didn't think a question about printer vs no printer was this big of a deal. To me it would be more of having dual FMS, an APU that can actually move air, FADEC with some force behind it, and crew meals. But no, it's who writes down what and where. It's a good sign that these are the gripes I guess, especially when nobody actually cares and everyone does it their own way without issues.

ebuhoner

Thanks for the details everything is more clear now!! Can't wait to start!!