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Old 08-30-2021, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Knight14
Sorry i’m asking this question from the point of view of a junior fo so feel free to correct me if i’m wrong. Doesn’t that mean more attrition which leads to less pilots at EDV which means more flying assigned for each pilot ? Wouldn’t that make trips more efficient ? Or is it the nature of flying that EDV does (mostly short legs) that would make it harder for the trips to be more efficient?

The scheduling is very inefficient. Lots of days worked with few hour per day. It's common to see just two legs a day blocking less than min day (4 hrs pay). I don't know why they don't improve efficiency. We also get a fair amount of 10-12 hour duty days that are only 4 hours of credit.
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Old 08-30-2021, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Doubtful. Hiring is just starting to ramp up at the majors. That will only make our staffing situation worse.
While I do agree...I could see it getting a little bit better just because the gain in senority. But I'm also wishful thinking
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Old 09-17-2021, 08:49 AM
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Sounds like negotiations broke down. We went from wanting to have an agreement this week to "we will further evaluate internally."

There really is no good reason for a new hire to come here. There also is no reason to stay here unless you are within a couple months of flow.
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Old 09-17-2021, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Sounds like negotiations broke down. We went from wanting to have an agreement this week to "we will further evaluate internally."

There really is no good reason for a new hire to come here. There also is no reason to stay here unless you are within a couple months of flow.
Agreed. You know what really did it in this week? Company got a hold of the fb posts on the edv pilot page 🤦‍♂️
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Old 09-17-2021, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Sounds like negotiations broke down. We went from wanting to have an agreement this week to "we will further evaluate internally."

There really is no good reason for a new hire to come here. There also is no reason to stay here unless you are within a couple months of flow.
That's a really bummer to hear to be honest.

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Agreed. You know what really did it in this week? Company got a hold of the fb posts on the edv pilot page 🤦‍♂️
Ouch....
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Old 09-17-2021, 09:48 AM
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Ouch....[/QUOTE]

I was being sarcastic
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Sounds like negotiations broke down. We went from wanting to have an agreement this week to "we will further evaluate internally."

There really is no good reason for a new hire to come here. There also is no reason to stay here unless you are within a couple months of flow.
I'm loving the transparency for both the company and the union. Apparently there are many options, but they don't want to tell us what they are so that we can let them know what our opinion is. A bunch of soon to flow union guys deciding what is best for us.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraMTNflyer
I'm loving the transparency for both the company and the union. Apparently there are many options, but they don't want to tell us what they are so that we can let them know what our opinion is. A bunch of soon to flow union guys deciding what is best for us.
This isn't Envoy. Six months ago, no one would be griping about the "soon to flow union guys" representing us.
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:43 AM
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This isn't Envoy. Six months ago, no one would be griping about the "soon to flow union guys" representing us.
Haha fair enough. Got to gripe about something for the next 4 years. But I would appreciate some more transparency. Especially with an open ended timeline like "soon"
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraMTNflyer
Haha fair enough. Got to gripe about something for the next 4 years. But I would appreciate some more transparency. Especially with an open ended timeline like "soon"
Negotiations haven't stalled they're just taking more time to get the right deal for the pilot group. Since they are still on they're bound by NDA and can't share much as far as details of the current negotiations.
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