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Old 04-11-2020, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Is there any language about removing A/C due to a loss of maineline hulls?
Yeah that’s what I’m wondering too. Perhaps it’s possible the loss of mainline hulls would necessitate a reduction in 76 seaters, and then would there need to be an additional 35 parked with no flow back language?
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Old 04-11-2020, 10:12 AM
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More food for thought:

. Exception one: If a pilot on the seniority list with an employment date prior to
43 December 1, 2016 is placed on furlough, the Company will convert all 76-seat
44 aircraft for operation as 70-seat aircraft. The number of such aircraft will continue to
45 be limited by Section 1 B. 47. e. as though they were being operated as 76-seat
46 aircraft. The Company may again commence operating such aircraft as 76-seat aircraft effective on the date that the most junior pilot protected by the first sentence
2 of Section 1 B. 47. f. Exception one is recalled from furlough.
3 Exception two: In the event the hiring or flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 or
4 LOA #9 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such
5 LOAs or at another carrier, the number of permitted 76-seat aircraft in Section 1 B.
6 47. e. will be reduced by 35.
If more than roughly 2500 Delta pilots get furloughed then all DCI 76 seat aircraft have to be converted to 70 seaters.
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Old 04-11-2020, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bender
More food for thought:
They have already parked 90, they have to either find a CP replacement or DALPA has to sign a new LoA to bring the extra 35 back. Hell OO could took take the flow back for all we know.
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Old 04-11-2020, 10:41 AM
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They'll have to figure something out, otherwise the LCC's will grab quite a bit of their previous market share during recovery. International flying will take 5 years to recover probably, domestic should rally back pretty hard as people want to get out of this lock down.
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Old 04-11-2020, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
And don’t forget about the 102 70 seaters
Yes the PWA has 102 limit on 51-70 seaters, but to the best of my reading of the legalese, the 70 seaters are part of the equation directly.

But indirectly, I guess if there were less than 102 x 70 seaters at the time, some of the 76 seaters could have seats taken out which would then plus up the 70 seaters until the 102 cap was reached.
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Old 04-11-2020, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Is there any language about removing A/C due to a loss of maineline hulls?
Originally Posted by pad39a
Yeah that’s what I’m wondering too. Perhaps it’s possible the loss of mainline hulls would necessitate a reduction in 76 seaters, and then would there need to be an additional 35 parked with no flow back language?
I didn't find anything that mentioned number of ML aircraft to number of DCI aircraft.

However, there is a minimum ratio of revenue block hours that must be maintained at ML. The ratio is based on revenue block hours on all ML NB and the 767-300 compared to revenue block hours of all 76 seat aircraft in Category A or C operations. The more 76 seaters that are flying, the higher the ratio multiplier that ML needs to fly.
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Old 04-11-2020, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pad39a
Yeah that’s what I’m wondering too. Perhaps it’s possible the loss of mainline hulls would necessitate a reduction in 76 seaters, and then would there need to be an additional 35 parked with no flow back language?
Hulls? Do they own boats?
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Melit
Hulls? Do they own boats?
Are you serious? Yes hulls. You're not to savvy in the aviation department are you?
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Old 04-11-2020, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Melit
Hulls? Do they own boats?
Well I am from Minnesota, and there are allot of boats. But anyone with deductive reasoning could figure out that “hulls” could mean either aircraft or boats. I’ll leave it to you to figure out the rest given this website’s title.
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Old 04-14-2020, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY
Are you serious? Yes hulls. You're not to savvy in the aviation department are you?
Very savvy. A hull is a main body of a ship or vessel skipper. Hull isn’t an aviation term unless you are Sully! It’s an airframe bro catch up.
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