msprj2

you don’t work for Delta

preflight

I have to admit it was kinda crappy walking around LGA the day they were giving themselves profit sharing bonus checks and slicing cake for anything Delta but we were not invited... not even a piece of cake.

Yumyum

I can’t even answer that. Just think for second next time you decide to be an a$$ hat

Yumyum

let me guess...you were one of those pay cut yes voters last downfall....wouldn’t be surprised.

theUpsideDown

Just a quick reminder to all. 88% were paycut yes voters, 90% pretend they were the no votes. It was a ton of upfront money for a pilot group that by the end of 2014, 2/3 had left. It was meant to get senior pilots to move the F on but surprise surprise surprise they didn't.

The final vote was after a year (more?) Of legal wrangling including the NY State Bankruptcy judge telling the company they were in violation of good faith bargaining and after a telling company leaders he was about to fix the problem for them, the company ran back to the table and we got that agreement signed.

The overwhelming majority of pilots wanted the soft pay held down, and we're willing to sacrifice pay rates to keep the soft pay, because the soft pay is worth more. When EDV couldn't staff (by then Delta had taken over) Delta was forced to pay huge bucks to the pilots. That's what polevaulted you ahead of your peers in soft pay AND hard pay.

There is no way voting "no" would have kept our pay, the judge reaffirmed his commitment to cut Pinnacle (what we were called then) pilots pay, but not so low that he'd "initiate a race to the bottom". The agreement made ensured Pinnacle pilots and not a judge could decide WHERE we wanted the cuts and that strategy IS what gave you the pay and benefits you have today.

Also if any Pinnacle or colgan pilot wants to complain about the bankruptcy agreement, that's fine, but AFTER the bankruptcy agreement Colgan STILL had a pay raise (because they were that badly compensated and still showed up for work) and Pinnacle pilots were were where they started off with worse health benefits. The only ones that ever did anything to make the paychecks show up on time and in greater amounts were the Mesaba pilots, also, it turned out, the only ones that brought any airplanes to the merger that will survive.

JonGoodsell764

If you’re sporting Orange these days you need to pull your head out of your *#$. Like someone above said, quit following the heard like a bunch of sheep. No one cares about your progression. Now, more-so than ever.

IAFDOF

There isn’t even anyone around to make the point *to* anymore. You think they’re holding meetings on progression right now? The entire industry’s singular priority is making it to next week. “Progression for all” is a message being screamed out in an empty, windowless room.

Delta might not hire again for months or even years after this is over. Wearing orange right now only communicates “I am out of touch and insensitive.”

OverMachoGrande

Oh God the bankruptcy argument again.

But in other news...

The virus was transported to all 50 states through air travel, yet all businesses where people group together have shut down except air travel, which continues to transport infected individuals around the country to spread the virus.
Why is all domestic air travel not shut down for a few weeks?

msprj2

Go back to your seatbelt demo.

JonGoodsell764

+1

filler...